When was the last time Pacquiao did this?

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Juan Diaz was highly regarded as the #1 challenger in his division.
Juan Diaz is also a natural Lightweight.
Juan Diaz is bigger and stronger than Juan Manuel Marquez.
Juan Diaz is 10 years younger than Juan Manuel Marquez.
Juan Diaz is in the prime of his career.

So when's the last time Pacquiao knocked out somebody like that?

You forget that nate campbell was the real #1 lightweight, so jmm KOing diaz doesn't mean all that much.

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You forget that nate campbell was the real #1 lightweight, so jmm KOing diaz doesn't mean all that much.

I never considered Campbell the #1 at Lightweight. Why? Because he wasn't the lineal Champion.

And all this Campbell **** will be squashed once Marquez moves up and takes Nate's ass out with ease. The difference in skill between these two is staggering.

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That's right, so the professional's who surround Roy, or the dietitians and experts that Oscar pays thousands of bucks to, should keep him informed that he can't cut it anymore and make sure he's well enough to compete, otherwise quit before they get hurt. I just don't buy excuses man. It's not the opponents' fault if he beats the **** outta you. if you do, then you got what you deserved because you played the game. It's a brutal sport where fighters use every advantage they can to make as much money as possible, but when a fighter beats a "shot" fighter he gets it in the neck for doing exactly that. It's wrong.

The only time I have sympathy is when it's someone like Liston at the end of his career. Basically, fighting to keep a roof over is head and put food on the table. Those fighters who already have enough but can't stop because they can't resist the millions... forget it.

It's not sympathy or any of that stuff, they get in their because they are making bank and their advisors are making bank off of them. All dlh lost was pride and laughed his way to the bank. Same with Sugar Ray Leonard, Tyson, and other dudes.

Otherwise they would retire at sensible times.

Of course the opponent is gonna take someone's head off.

I don't have anything against PAC taking the most money. Why wouldn't he?

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I never considered Campbell the #1 at Lightweight. Why? Because he wasn't the lineal Champion.

And all this Campbell **** will be squashed once Marquez moves up and takes Nate's ass out with ease. The difference in skill between these two is staggering.

Agree with you, Bringer. No offense to Nate, but I see him getting an ass whipping against Marquez.



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I never considered Campbell the #1 at Lightweight. Why? Because he wasn't the lineal Champion.

And all this Campbell **** will be squashed once Marquez moves up and takes Nate's ass out with ease. The difference in skill between these two is staggering.

So you consider the guy Campbell beat the best lightweight prior to losing to Marquez?. Im trying to see your arguments as fair but I can't get where your coming from...I agree Marquez destroys Campbell though, no arguments there.

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Well Duran did lose 4 out of the 5 fights he had against other ATGS...........

Let me see Marquez go in the ring with Hearns, Leonard, and Hagler. He would get toasted.


Duran would sleep Marquez at 135.

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It's not sympathy or any of that stuff, they get in their because they are making bank and their advisors are making bank off of them. All dlh lost was pride and laughed his way to the bank. Same with Sugar Ray Leonard, Tyson, and other dudes.

Otherwise they would retire at sensible times.

Of course the opponent is gonna take someone's head off.

I don't have anything against PAC taking the most money. Why wouldn't he?

Yeah, me neither. What I'm getting at is those who criticize Pac for fighting Morales and such. "Boo hoo... Pacquiao forced him to 130 and Roach locked Erik up in a cage without any clothes on for 3 months before that fight, feeding him only on lettuce."

You know.



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Agree with you, Bringer. No offense to Nate, but I see him getting an ass whipping against Marquez.

Nate gets knocked out cold against Marquez. The same way Marquez knocked out the true lineal Champion, in Casamayor.

After that people will be saying he's not **** at 140lbs either, because Nate was just moving up as well, or that Pacquiao is #1 for beating Hatton (which I would agree with actually, since Hatton is the man at 140lbs).

Pacquiao and Marquez need to just straight whitewash 140. It's a **** division and it's about time it gets exposed as such. With Pac and Juan there, I don't thinks will look too good for guys like Malignaggi, Bradley, Holt, Torres, etc.....

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Let me see Marquez go in the ring with Hearns, Leonard, and Hagler. He would get toasted.


Duran would sleep Marquez at 135.

Does the dde stand for Dwight David Eisenhower?

I LIKE IKE.

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LOL. Yap..

Even tho MAB, EM were in the top 10 P4p when Pac beat them, They were still shot.. i guess..

Just like Roy Jones was in the top 10 p4p when calzaghe beat him.*SARCASM*

Remember if you lose to Pac, your shot.