When was the last time Pacquiao did this?

[S A M U R A I]

i know that. My point is everybody is saying Morales, Barrera, DLH were SHOT when Pac fought them, and that he was fighting the old men, when they were champion.

Then Everybody says Marquez is Great because he beat casamayor who is past prime and older then Marquez..

It's bull****

K bro, I'm with you now.



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[dde91]

I love me some Marquez almost as much as I love me some B-Hop. They're 2 of my top 10 favorite fighters of all time. Hopkins gets the nod over Juan though because A.) He's from my hometown, B.) He's the only fighter I've followed since I was 10 years old, and C.) His legacy is greater than Juan Manuel's.

at least we can agree on B-Hop. LOL

[loui_ludwig]

I agree that the KO of Diaz means more for Marquez than the KO of Casamayor.

But the KO of Casamayor for Marquez means more than the KO of David Diaz did for Pacquiao.

Argue all you want about Diaz beating Santa Cruz, who should've gotten the nod against Casamayor. But that's symantics. In the record books (where it really matters), Casamayor was the man to beat at 135lbs.

And just to clarify, I feel the same way about Pacquiao/Marquez. I can sit here and make as strong a case for Marquez beating Pacquiao in the rematch all I want. Some will agree with me, others won't. But it's a strawman, because where it really counts, in the record books, Pacquiao got the W in that one. However close it may have been.

Then in it, Pac beats JMM.

[strugler]

Shot? Absolutely not. Past prime? Sure.

Double standard at its best imo.

[ßringer]

i know that. My point is everybody is saying Morales, Barrera, DLH were SHOT when Pac fought them, and that he was fighting the old men, when they were champion.

Then Everybody says Marquez is Great because he beat casamayor who is past prime and older then Marquez..

It's bull****

Correct me if I'm wrong. (It's been a while......) But.....

Barrera wasn't a Champion in the Pacquiao rematch.

Morales wasn't a Champion in either the second or third Pacquiao matches.

And De La Hoya hadn't been a Champion at 147lbs for a number of years.

[ßringer]

Double standard at its best imo.

Explain. You can't just say **** and not give an argument.

I guarantee I will listen and counterpoint you without acting like a typical NSB user. I can debate peacefully. I think this thread shows that.

[ßringer]

Then in it, Pac beats JMM.

If you would've read the last paragraph of my post, you would've saw I said the exact same thing.

[S A M U R A I]

Correct me if I'm wrong. (It's been a while......) But.....

Barrera wasn't a Champion in the Pacquiao rematch.

Morales wasn't a Champion in either the second or third Pacquiao matches.

And De La Hoya hadn't been a Champion at 147lbs for a number of years.

Two rematches and a huge money fight...

I can't understand why Pac had to fight Barrera again. I can understand the first rematch of Erik because it was close, and also the Oscar fight for a big fat check. The only "?" on there is the 2nd Barrera fight cause he was destroyed badly in the first.



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[ßringer]

at least we can agree on B-Hop. LOL

We may not agree on everything, but we definitely agree there. I've been an avid supporter of Bernard's for over 13 years. And the scary part is, it only seems like it's been about 5.

[loui_ludwig]

If you would've read the last paragraph of my post, you would've saw I said the exact same thing.

Ouch, my bad. I was fast on the gun. I apologized.