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    #121
    judges infallible

    Originally posted by znarfv_y2k8
    ....to make u a boxing judge
    yeah ill become a judge to erase the fact ur boy got outconnected ,and clearly won less rnds and lost the championship rnds.twice.im not the only one max kellerman said he felt pak lost both bouts jmm closed the show not pac,pac won some battles in the fights but lost the wars to me a guy thats all cut up on clean shots at the end of a fight and was outconnected handily and loses the late rnds is not the winner the judges are often wrong but there perfect when it comes to pac i guess.....

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      #122
      Originally posted by boxinguitarfan
      those are the judges scores which ultimatley rule but check out the compubox post fight analysis, pac threw much more and landed less ,and the rounds pac won he won by a smaller margin than jmm did his. they liked pac their opinion but the truth is jmm landed more overall and won most of the fight period,the knockdown was the equalizer in the judges minds,so its a matter of early knockdown vs more rounds and superior punch connects the second fight was much closer no doubt, this debate could rage forever a 3rd fight shouldve already happened as jmm is 35 pac has all the time he wants.
      ...a 3rd fight in the future is good & i love to watch it again but not now they need to overcome their assignments first....but i believe Marquez is still at his peak & i'm a fan of him also...but i believe Pac won that second fight no doubt because of that knockdown & i watched it many times & intensively analyzed it fairly...the first fight i haven't check it again...

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      • start11
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        #123
        Originally posted by boxinguitarfan
        yeah ill become a judge to erase the fact ur boy got outconnected ,and clearly won less rnds and lost the championship rnds.twice.im not the only one max kellerman said he felt pak lost both bouts jmm closed the show not pac,pac won some battles in the fights but lost the wars to me a guy thats all cut up on clean shots at the end of a fight and was outconnected handily and loses the late rnds is not the winner the judges are often wrong but there perfect when it comes to pac i guess.....
        Then do it now... Your are just making fool of yourself... Then if they are often wrong why not watch boxing anymore since it will surely make you more frustrated... The thing is, its your subjective opinion that make you cry so much because you cant accept the fact then its all over and pac won...

        Let it go dude...

        JMM will KO juan Diaz for sure becuase for me JMM is too skilled for Diaz...

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          #124
          Originally posted by boxinguitarfan
          yeah ill become a judge to erase the fact ur boy got outconnected ,and clearly won less rnds and lost the championship rnds.twice.im not the only one max kellerman said he felt pak lost both bouts jmm closed the show not pac,pac won some battles in the fights but lost the wars to me a guy thats all cut up on clean shots at the end of a fight and was outconnected handily and loses the late rnds is not the winner the judges are often wrong but there perfect when it comes to pac i guess.....
          ...and one thing also i need to see a Marquez vs Morales fight...cause pacquiao was already tested by the 3 of them only Marquez vs Morales is lacking w/ the round robin battle between these elite champions...

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            #125
            Originally posted by znarfv_y2k8
            ...a 3rd fight in the future is good & i love to watch it again but not now they need to overcome their assignments first....but i believe Marquez is still at his peak & i'm a fan of him also...but i believe Pac won that second fight no doubt because of that knockdown & i watched it many times & intensively analyzed it fairly...the first fight i haven't check it again...
            the first fight was not anywhere nearly as close as the second despite the 3 first rnd knockdows of marquez, pac has much improved from the first fight to the second, i thought jmm won the second by 1rnd marquez is facing a top guy against diaz ,its a 50 -50.pacs punches look more spectacular but jmm landed more. very contreversial.

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              #126
              morales ducked marquez but morales is definitley shot he was since the last of the barrera fights,that he beat pac was a miracle and a testament to how good he was.morales too many wars,not even old

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                #127
                Originally posted by boxinguitarfan
                the first fight was not anywhere nearly as close as the second despite the 3 first rnd knockdows of marquez, pac has much improved from the first fight to the second, i thought jmm won the second by 1rnd marquez is facing a top guy against diaz ,its a 50 -50.pacs punches look more spectacular but jmm landed more. very contreversial.
                ...as what iv'e said scoring system is 10-9, etc...the 2nd no doubt Pac won by a point, the first there's an error of the judge scoring, the 1st rd was scored 10-7 & it must be 10-6 because of the 3 knockdowns...so if u really follow the system of scoring Pac really won that 1st fight unless u use ur own scoring system & that makes out of this world...

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by boxinguitarfan
                  morales ducked marquez but morales is definitley shot he was since the last of the barrera fights,that he beat pac was a miracle and a testament to how good he was.morales too many wars,not even old
                  speaking of gift decisions, floyd had his against the first castillo fight... beat a tomato can brussels, chop chop corley, and a very shot gatti... beat a 2nd tier champion baldomir, and baldomir's victim zab judah, a shot oscar and the smaller hatton... stuff of legends... nice resume...

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                  • boxinguitarfan
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by start11
                    Then do it now... Your are just making fool of yourself... Then if they are often wrong why not watch boxing anymore since it will surely make you more frustrated... The thing is, its your subjective opinion that make you cry so much because you cant accept the fact then its all over and pac won...

                    Let it go dude...

                    JMM will KO juan Diaz for sure becuase for me JMM is too skilled for Diaz...
                    cmon dude judges often wrong all the sudden they are convienently wise and just because its a pac fight cmon please,, look at the toney vs oquendo or berto vs collazo matches. that shoulda been a draw or a loss 4 berto,but since hbo is trying to make berto the next hot **** the judges are often lenient to put it kindly.what i cant accept is credit where its not really due.pacya way overrated u know this but enjoy it while it lasts hey all lose sooner or later. jmm vs diaz thats a tough one if jmm hasnt aged should win but this is boxing weve had like 5 major upsets in a row

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                    • znarfv_y2k8
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by boxinguitarfan
                      morales ducked marquez but morales is definitley shot he was since the last of the barrera fights,that he beat pac was a miracle and a testament to how good he was.morales too many wars,not even old
                      I'm a fan of the 3 Pac, Morales & Marquez but not Barerra cause i don't like his style but no doubt his great...if u call morales a shot its the end of the story ur not fair...i think morales won that fight w/ Diaz but its close...but i really want to see a Marquez vs Morales fight to see clear view whose really rank 2nd to Pac...and i also believe Morales ranks ahead of Barerra w/ 2-1 score not the other way around...

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