Is Manny Pacquiao a top 20 all time?

[hammerhiem]

wasnt duran a lightweight

He won fights at all those weigths.

*edit miss read the quote.

[fcastro1]

I beg your pardon? I assume you're joking there.

Duran is the greatest lightweight ever to grace the ring.

pac won his first title at flyweight fought as high as welter
duran won title at lightweight and fought as high as middle their is big difference in weight.

[hammerhiem]

pac won his first title at flyweight fought as high as welter
duran won title at lightweight and fought as high as middle their is big difference in weight.

I miss read you comment see above.

He fought for the following titles in addition to his 9 year rule at LW.

WBC Welterweight
WBC/WBA/IBF Middleweight
WBC Super Middleweight

He won bouts as low as 120 and as High as 175.

[fcastro1]

in my opinion he is top 35 atg, im saying his accomplishments are up their with the greats, if he continues his streak, i dont think top 20 is to far to reach.

[-EX-]

No. Nobody fighting right now is top 20 IMO. Unless u wanna make a tough argument for Roy maybe.

[BennyST]

my answer is flyweight to welterweight, who has done that in the history of the sport! thats 10 divisions, that is what stands out in my opinion.

I think one of the points you're missing though is that any number of fighters could have done this. Jumping up to a weight to fight one specifically picked guy that is easily beatable does not, or at least should not, count as fighting in a division.

Being in a division, actually fighting in a specific division, means going through contenders to championship level. At least it should. That's why this whole thing of "He's gone through every single division boxing has!" is absurd. Manny hasn't been a lightweight, JWW or WW. He has fought specifically picked guys that he would beat easily and moved on to the next 'target' fight.

It's an amazing feat going through that many divisions, whatever anyone says, but that alone is not in any way, shape or form enough to immediately place him even close to a top 20 or even fifty.

[strugler]

No. Nobody fighting right now is top 20 IMO. Unless u wanna make a tough argument for Roy maybe.

Roy jones is great but pac and bhops resume is shall we say greater than roy.In my humble opinion.

[BennyST]

pac won his first title at flyweight fought as high as welter
duran won title at lightweight and fought as high as middle their is big difference in weight.

No, Duran started his career at 120 and fought as high as Light Heavyweight, just as Manny fought as high as Welterweight. 175 is LHW, not middleweight.

[fcastro1]

I think one of the points you're missing though is that any number of fighters could have done this. Jumping up to a weight to fight one specifically picked guy that is easily beatable does not, or at least should not, count as fighting in a division.

Being in a division, actually fighting in a specific division, means going through contenders to championship level. At least it should. That's why this whole thing of "He's gone through every single division boxing has!" is absurd. Manny hasn't been a lightweight, JWW or WW. He has fought specifically picked guys that he would beat easily and moved on to the next 'target' fight.

It's an amazing feat going through that many divisions, whatever anyone says, but that alone is not in any way, shape or form enough to immediately place him even close to a top 20 or even fifty.

well he did win a title at lightweight, and is now fighting the linear champ at 140. to say he is cherry picking is false, he is moving up the weights legitimitely, delahoya was at welter but he was still ranked 1 at junior middle

[a-raines21]

atg is all opinion