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  • BetterCallSaul
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    #41
    The only way to beat Mayweather, is to out Mayweather him. This means having a great defence, speed, accuracy, timing, and movement. You have to pick your shots, fight from the outside, and be very economical. Even then it will be up to the judges. Mayweather is pretty close to unbeatable.

    And it will be the most boring fight in the history of the sport.

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    • Ch@mpBox@PR
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      #42
      No it doesnt. Everybody have that fighter whom style will give him trouble.

      I say Cotto, Quartey, Forrest,prime DLH, all would had or have a great chance at Beating Mayweather!!!!!!!!!!!!

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        #43
        Originally posted by The Gambler1981
        I never said no one can match his brain, I just said that anyone able to do it would be very special. So I think it would take a special fighter to beat Floyd, you do not.


        I am talking about beating Floyd, I am not talking about beatin Vivian Harris (who can not hold Floyds jock strap imo). I think Floyd beat JLC clearly in the first fight ( I am in the minority but JLC lost to many early rounds and lost a point in a round he lost which really ****ed his chances).


        It takes a great fighter to take another fighters advantages away, if a fighter can do nothing about a certain fighter that is avery serious mark against them. Zab had advantage against Floyd, Floyd took them away (some people just say he faded, like Mayweather had jack **** to do with it).


        Some fighters can overscome a stylistic disadvantge, some can not. Going back to what I originally said the brain is what truly spereates the great from the very good in boxing.

        Its a case of who do you think is special thats all. I mean do you think Frankie Randall was a special fighter? because im sure you will conceed he beat a special fighter.

        Do you find Tarver,Forrest to be special fighters ?

        I think they are all talented, but i wouldn't call either of them special. That is all im getting at.

        Why would Harris WANT to hold his jock strap anyway? I realize you are not talking about Harris, but i addressed why i brought his fight with Maussa up as an example.

        Do you think Judah would of gone on to beat Floyd, if he had maintained exactly what he was doing from start to finish ?
        Last edited by P4P GOAT; 02-21-2009, 05:49 PM.

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          #44
          Originally posted by P4P GOAT
          Its a case of who do you think is special thats all. I mean do you think Frankie Randall was a special fighter? because im sure you will conceed he beat a special fighter.

          Do you find Tarver,Forrest to be special fighters ?

          I think they are all talented, but i wouldn't call either of them special. That is all im getting at.

          Why would Harris WANT to hold his jock strap anyway? I realize you are not talking about Harris, but i addressed why i brought his fight with Maussa up as an example.

          Do you think Judah would of gone on to beat Floyd, if had maintained exactly what he was doing from start to finish ?

          What is special about Chavez to you.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
            No it doesnt. Everybody have that fighter whom style will give him trouble.

            I say Cotto, Quartey, Forrest,prime DLH, all would had or have a great chance at Beating Mayweather!!!!!!!!!!!!
            Really, are those not all special boxers? Prime Forrest I would give the best shot of the guys you listed. Quartey is ok but I think Floyd would have some issues early before adjust and taking away that bazooka jab. Oscar did alright in their fight and that was an older Oscar, but Floyd was always a better techincal boxer then Oscar and a much smarter fighter. Cotto, who knows maybe but it is hard to say as Floyd's style is unique so it is hard to form a basis for comparision.

            Out of all the guys listed I would not say any are the smarter boxer then Mayweather which makes me doubt their chances.

            Sweet Pea would be a good choice to beat Floyd, but I think that fight would end up very close and would depend on the eye of the beholder to decide who won. Duran would have a very good chance. Any really great 135 pounder and especially 147 pounders would have very good shots.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Bhopreign
              What is special about Chavez to you.
              You dont consider him an ATG fighter or one of the best to reign in his division ?

              That is what i mean by special.

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                #47
                An ordinary fighter like Castillo schooled Floyd.
                Floyd is overrated and he retired in his prime, which makes him a *****.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by P4P GOAT
                  You dont consider him an ATG fighter or one of the best to reign in his division ?

                  That is what i mean by special.
                  Who possibly used bricks himself. I agree that styles do make fights, great fighters can adjust and figure a style out over the course of a fight if that other fighter doesnt change. You left out the fact that Floyd went into the first Castillo fight with a torn rotator cuff and broken ribs, helps your argument I guess.

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by P4P GOAT
                    Its a case of who do you think is special thats all. I mean do you think Frankie Randall was a special fighter? because im sure you will conceed he beat a special fighter.

                    Do you find Tarver,Forrest to be special fighters ?

                    I think they are all talented, but i wouldn't call either of them special. That is all im getting at.

                    Why would Harris WANT to hold his jock strap anyway? I realize you are not talking about Harris, but i addressed why i brought his fight with Maussa up as an example.

                    Do you think Judah would of gone on to beat Floyd, if had maintained exactly what he was doing from start to finish ?

                    I was just using a jerk way to say that Harris is nowhere near Mayweather. I think Mayweather made it impossibel for Zab to continue on with what he is doing. Zab is not a great example anyways since his boxing iq is similar to a box of oatmeal. He did have advantages early though stylistically, but Floyd used his brain and they disapeered.

                    To me a stylistic advantage only arises when a fighter has no answeres. If a fighter can think clearly and use their head, it is possible to completely erase an advantage like this. Not all gret boxers are equal, not all of them were thinking mans fighters.


                    Yea they are special, or atleast could have been. Crack and injuries did take away from their respective careers though.
                    Last edited by The Gambler1981; 02-21-2009, 05:53 PM.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Bhopreign
                      Who possibly used bricks himself. I agree that styles do make fights, great fighters can adjust and figure a style out over the course of a fight if that other fighter doesnt change. You left out the fact that Floyd went into the first Castillo fight with a torn rotator cuff and broken ribs, helps your argument I guess.
                      I leave that for guys like you to point out.

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