It does not take a special fighter to beat Floyd Mayweather it takes

[P4P GOAT]

hell he is unbeatable..cause he picks his fights...lol..thats smart

What?

who said he picks his fights?

[The Gambler1981]

I agree with much of the first part.


Not necessarily, because some people do the right things instinctively because they have natural ability. Some guys can learn Boxing from the age of 10 and they may never develop into a good fighters, where as someone like Nate Campbell,Toney can start late and pick the game up straight away.

It is still all about the brain, if you can pick it up quick that is a mental part of the game. I stand by my position, there are different ways in which a brain can be special sure.

Normally they say as fighter age they compensate with their brains, but Floyd was able to be very in-ring smart while having great physical tools.

That said in any fight there are advantages that either fighter will have, it takes the brain to put these advantages into action.

If you can not properly use your advantages what good are they? Or if your opponent can think of a way to negate your physical tools with their physical tools, what good are they?

[P4P GOAT]

It is still all about the brain, if you can pick it up quick that is a mental part of the game. I stand by my position, there are different ways in which a brain can be special sure.

Normally they say as fighter age they compensate with their brains, but Floyd was able to be very in-ring smart while having great physical tools.

That said in any fight there are advantages that either fighter will have, it takes the brain to put these advantages into action.

If you can not properly use your advantages what good are they? Or if your opponent can think of a way to negate your physical tools with their physical tools, what good are they?

Im not saying its not about the brain. Im saying some people fight on instinct, but they still make the right decisions, because they are naturally gifted human beings.

What im trying to say is some fighters do right, even though they are not consciously thinking about their next move the way Floyd does and that is when you know someones style is suited to beating you, because they dont have to exert themselves as much to have success, but you do.

Thats the definition of a bad style match everyone has them, even Floyd.

[The Gambler1981]

Im not saying its not about the brain. Im saying some people fight on instinct, but they still make the right decisions, because they are naturally gifted human beings.

What im trying to say is some fighters do right, even though they are not consciously thinking about their next move the way Floyd does and that is when you know someones style is suited to beating you, because they dont have to exert themselves as much to have success, but you do.

Thats the definition of a bad style match everyone has them, even Floyd.

That is all about the brain though. What one person finds easy another person may find near impossible. The more things that a fighter can do in the ring, the less style matchup problems they have.

Floyd has a very gifted boxing brain is my point , it would not be a fluke if someone beat him. It would be because they had the better mind in the ring.

Just because someone presents a style problem does not give them an easy victory over a great fighter, one of the tests of a great fighter is overcomming adversity. It is my belief that Floyd can come up with solutions in the ring to most stlyes, having a style advantage is only as good as your mind allows you to keep the advantage. If someone can adjust and you have nothing to answer back with, the gig is up.

[andrewcuff]

hell he is unbeatable..cause he picks his fights...lol..thats smart

So basically you're saying that he's unbeatable because he only picks fights with boxers who don't stand a chance of beating him

[P4P GOAT]

That is all about the brain though. What one person finds easy another person may find near impossible. The more things that a fighter can do in the ring, the less style matchup problems they have.

Floyd has a very gifted boxing brain is my point , it would not be a fluke if someone beat him. It would be because they had the better mind in the ring.

Just because someone presents a style problem does not give them an easy victory over a great fighter, one of the tests of a great fighter is overcomming adversity. It is my belief that Floyd can come up with solutions in the ring to most stlyes, having a style advantage is only as good as your mind allows you to keep the advantage. If someone can adjust and you have nothing to answer back with, the gig is up.

I agree Floyd has a very gifted boxing brain.


You are saying no one can match Floyd's Boxing brain. Castillo could not match his Boxing brain or his athletic ability and he arguably beat him.

Its like i said some fighters fight on instinct without setting up there next move, but they instinctively do the right things in the ring too cause an opponent problems. Probably without even realizing themselves how they are being so effective.

I mean i dont think Carlos Maussa is more atheltic than Vivian Harris or has a better Boxing brain, but Maussa was obviously doing things instinctively that was giving Harris problems. I know Floyd is a better fighter than Harris, but im just trying to show that more athletic ability and a better Boxing brain dont always carry the day when someone is instinctively doing the right things in the ring to offset you.

[Bhopreign]

It takes more than a certain style, you need more than that.

[P4P GOAT]

It takes more than a certain style, you need more than that.

That goes without saying.

[The Gambler1981]

I agree Floyd has a very gifted boxing brain.


You are saying no one can match Floyd's Boxing brain. Castillo could not match his Boxing brain or his athletic ability and he arguably beat him.

Its like i said some fighters fight on instinct without setting up there next move, but they instinctively do the right things in the ring too cause an opponent problems without even realizing themselves how they are being so effective.

I mean i dont think Carlos Maussa is more atheltic than Vivian Harris or has a better Boxing brain, but Maussa was obviously doing things instinctively that was giving Harris problems. I know Floyd is a better fighter than Harris, but im just trying to show that more athletic ability and a better Boxing brain dont always carry the day when someone is instinctively doing the right things in the ring to offset you.

I never said no one can match his brain, I just said that anyone able to do it would be very special. So I think it would take a special fighter to beat Floyd, you do not.


I am talking about beating Floyd, I am not talking about beatin Vivian Harris (who can not hold Floyds jock strap imo). I think Floyd beat JLC clearly in the first fight ( I am in the minority but JLC lost to many early rounds and lost a point in a round he lost which really ****ed his chances).


It takes a great fighter to take another fighters advantages away, if a fighter can do nothing about a certain fighter that is avery serious mark against them. Zab had advantage against Floyd, Floyd took them away (some people just say he faded, like Mayweather had jack **** to do with it).


Some fighters can overscome a stylistic disadvantge, some can not. Going back to what I originally said the brain is what truly seperates the great from the very good in boxing.

[The Gambler1981]

Anyways we may never agree on this, aslong as you except my line of reasoning there is no need to continue. If you believe what you say, I have no problem with what you are saying.