It does not take a special fighter to beat Floyd Mayweather it takes

[Bhopreign]

I leave that for guys like you to point out.

Being bias makes your thread worthless, because youre not willing to tell both sides of the story, it shows you have an agenda, therefore it will fall on deaf ears.

[P4P GOAT]

I was just using a jerk way to say that Harris is nowhere near Mayweather. I think Mayweather made it impossibel for Zab to continue on with what he is doing. Zab is not a great example anyways since his boxing iq is similar to a box of oatmeal. He did have advantages early though stylistically, but Floyd used his brain and they disapeered.

To me a stylistic advantage only arises when a fighter has no answeres. If a fighter can think clearly and use their head, it is possible to completely erase an advantage like this.

But That is only, if you can make a diagnosis of how he is giving you trouble that is the hardest part of the puzzle.

Floyd has had his problems with Southpaws. His own father has admitted this. Now that is not a huge stylistic advantage imo, because in Boxing terms its a relatively common PROBLEM to come across when trying to work out an opponent. If a lefty can throw him, then adapting too all situations will not be as easy for him as people seem to think.

He has not been beat by Southpaw fighters, but he has been hit more consistently against them than any other style of opponent. The only decent Southpaw he fought was Judah and he was winning the rounds he won clearly. You say Floyd adapted i say more a case of Judah slowing down as per. Dont forget this guy lost to Baldy so its not even like he is a great fighter either. The guy fades we know this.

[P4P GOAT]

Being bias makes your thread worthless, because youre not willing to tell both sides of the story, it shows you have an agenda, therefore it will fall on deaf ears.

How im being biased by not bringing it up?


I dont even know, if it is a fact for a start.

[Bhopreign]

Dont forget this guy lost to Baldy so its not even like he is a great fighter either. The guy fades we know this.

You say that but then say Chavez is great even though he lost to Randall whom you say isnt special. Which is it.

[Bhopreign]

How im being biased by not bringing it up?


I dont even know, if it is a fact for a start.

There is more than enough footage to know its a fact.

[P4P GOAT]

You say that but then say Chavez is great even though he lost to Randall whom you say isnt special. Which is it.

There is more than enough footage to know its a fact.

You dont think Chavez is a great fighter then ?based on where Randall and Forrest's career went after that they are probably not special fighters, but that is just logic imo not biased.

Video Footage is not concrete evidence is it? ive had Rotar cuff problems myself from working out, and they are the kind of thing that cant really be pin pointed by a doctor, in my experience anyway.

There is no definitive way of knowing.

[Pullcounter]

Who would of thought DLH,Castillo,Judah would of done as well as they did against Mayweather ? Judah i guess you could make a case for because he is a slick,fast,lefty, but off the top of your head you would of expected Mayweather to walk all over DLH,Castillo, but he did'nt.

let me see if i understand you... styles make fights and the right style can beat floyd. floyd didnt walk all over dlh and castillo, so they had the right style to beat floyd. floyd struggled with judah so he has the right style to beat floyd. conclusion: it doesnt take a special fighter to beat floyd...

the flaw to your argument is that floyd beat dlh, castillo and judah. in fact, floyd has beaten every style there is... brawler, pressure fighter, boxer, you name it floyd's beaten it.

i agree that styles make fights, but the opponent has to be special to beat floyd.

[The Gambler1981]

But That is only, if you can make a diagnosis of how he is giving you trouble that is the hardest part of the puzzle.

Floyd has had his problems with Southpaws. His own father has admitted this. Now that its not a huge stylistic advantage imo, because in Boxing terms of adapting its a relatively common PROBLEM to come across when trying to work out an opponent. If a lefty can throw him, then adapting too all situations will not be as easy for him as people seem to think.

He has not been beat by Southpaw fighters, but he has been hit more consistently against them than any other style of opponent. The only decent Southpaw he fought was Judah and he was winning the rounds he won clearly. You say Floyd adapted i say more a case of Judah slowing down as per. Dont forget this guy lost to Baldy so its not even like he is a great fighter either. The guy fades we know this.

He put a pretty bad ass whipping on all the southpaws he fought (Corley, Mitchell and Judah). I would not go over board call these guys special fighters but they were all very good (Mitchell was pretty long in the tooth though I will admit). He did get cuaght very cleanly and rocked in both the Corley and Judah fights, but it was not a recurring thing through out the fight it happeaned once then never like that again.

Bringing up Zab against Baldomir, Zab went in there to knock out Baldomir. He also showed Baldomir no respect as shown by the whole glove touching incident. After the fact that was known to be a bad idea to go in there with the intention to take out Baldomir. You fight the wrong fight against any opponent and it can be very costly.

Zab fought much better against Floyd then Baldomir, and I actually think he had some idea of what to do (since they used to be friend and spared a lot), but Zab had no answers for Floyd once he took those ideas away.

If he fought someone like Whitiker I do not know what would happean though, or any lefty like that.

[Bhopreign]

You dont think Chavez is a great fighter then ?based on where Randall and Forrest's career went after that they are probably not special fighters, but that is just logic imo not biased.

Video Footage is not concrete evidence is it? ive had Rotar cuff problems myself from working out, and they are the kind of thing that cant really be pin pointed by a doctor, in my experience anyway.

There is no definitive way of knowing.

Silly the doctor is the one who diagnosed his injury, Lampley even said this, not to mention two broken ribs. If you dont know what youre talking about its best to not say anything. Your agenda is clear and youre wrong even with that, it does take a special fighter to beat Floyd. It takes more than just a certain style, over 12 rounds he will figure it out, then the other fighter will have to adapt to what Floyd has figured out.

[P4P GOAT]

Silly the doctor is the one who diagnosed his injury, Lampley even said this, not to mention two broken ribs. If you dont know what youre talking about its best to not say anything. Your agenda is clear and youre wrong even with that, it does take a special fighter to beat Floyd. It takes more than just a certain style, over 12 rounds he will figure it out, then the other fighter will have to adapt to what Floyd has figured out.

Of coarse you have proof of this ? we know Floyd would use any straw to grab at for his lack luster display, because any fighter would, its the nature of fighters to make excuses, when they dont perform to what they think they can.

Do YOU think Randal,Forrest,Douglas etc are special fighters ?