Can Floyd Mayweather be considered a HOF'er and ATG?

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  • Sugar May Floyd
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    #31
    Originally posted by ALT=_=Assassin
    One fighter left at his physical prime and the other ended his career with a win over a prime Roy Jones......

    A call him a prime Roy because that is what he fights like without the roids....

    BTW Borat makes funnier NOT jokes than you.... pitiful
    right.......... that was extremely pathetic.

    Tarver Johnson both beat better version of RJJ than Calzaghe without being knocked down and they won by KO

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      #32
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      The five-weight class thing is a little overdone. They manufactured a belt at 154 for Oscar didn't they? Like they always do. And I don't remember him being the true champ at 140 either.
      He was never the true champ at 140. After Hatton beat Kodtya. Mayweather offered him a fight TWICE at 140 for ring title. Hatton said NO

      You know Oscar KO'd Ricardo Mayorga for WBC title at 154 and was ranked best JR MW when Mayweather beat him

      Do you even know anything about Floyd

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        #33
        Originally posted by Sugar May Floyd
        right.......... that was extremely pathetic.

        Tarver Johnson both beat better version of RJJ than Calzaghe without being knocked down and they won by KO
        Tarver landed a lucky punch. He didn't even have his eyes open when he threw it. Johnson was beat soundly by Hopkins who got but rapped by Joe....

        Joe>Roy>Bernard>Johnson

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          #34
          Originally posted by ALT=_=Assassin
          Tarver landed a lucky punch. He didn't even have his eyes open when he threw it. Johnson was beat soundly by Hopkins who got but rapped by Joe....

          Joe>Roy>Bernard>Johnson
          Got ****d by Joe Hopkins. Who ass touched the canvas

          Associated Press, Yahoo, and ESPN scored the bout 114-113 for Hopkins w

          Jones>Hopkins>Toney>Dawson>Calzaghe

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            #35
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            Manchine, you're on point like a Quartey jab. I had high, high hopes for Floyd, I thought he could be better than Jones, Toney, all of them. In spite of his Hall of Fame accomplishments he never quite fulfilled that potential and falls just short of ATG. I still hold out hope he'll return.
            I agree. He can still be an ATG if he returns.

            Of course his retirement is his own choice and he has earned it for sure. But legacy-wise it has to hurt.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Sugar May Floyd
              He was never the true champ at 140. After Hatton beat Kodtya. Mayweather offered him a fight TWICE at 140 for ring title. Hatton said NO

              You know Oscar KO'd Ricardo Mayorga for WBC title at 154 and was ranked best JR MW when Mayweather beat him

              Do you even know anything about Floyd
              Glad we agree on the bolded. The rest is irrelevant.

              Yeah, I know Oscar beat Ricardo Mayorga. What's your point? It was still a manufactured title bout. Can you tell me how these guys got that shot? Matter of fact, can you tell me anything those two have done of note at 154 since the Iraq War began? Thanks.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Sugar May Floyd
                Got ****d by Joe Hopkins. Who ass touched the canvas

                Associated Press, Yahoo, and ESPN scored the bout 114-113 for Hopkins w

                Jones>Hopkins>Toney>Dawson>Calzaghe
                All American news outlets, What do you expect?

                Bernard faked a low blow like the classless **** he is. Joe would of stopped him if not for his Oscar worthy performance..

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                  #38
                  I'd have to say he is a HOF'er and an all time great based on his accomplishments, but I can't say he's the greatest or best of all time.

                  The jury is still out on whether he'll return to the ring and what he'll be capable of after a good long rest.

                  I he stays away from the ring for three to five more years, then we'll know he's retired for good.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Glad we agree on the bolded. The rest is irrelevant.

                    Yeah, I know Oscar beat Ricardo Mayorga. What's your point? It was still a manufactured title bout. Can you tell me how these guys got that shot? Matter of fact, can you tell me anything those two have done of note at 154 since the Iraq War began? Thanks.
                    How is the rest not irrelevant??? You are trying to make it out to be Mayweather never wanted to fight the best at 140 when he was clearly ducked.

                    How is the WBC a manufactured title bout.

                    Mayorga since 2003 beat Forrest TWICE
                    Oscar beat Strum Mayorga Mosley after the Iraq war began

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Sugar May Floyd
                      How is the rest not irrelevant??? You are trying to make it out to be Mayweather never wanted to fight the best at 140 when he was clearly ducked.

                      How is the WBC a manufactured title bout.

                      Mayorga since 2003 beat Forrest TWICE
                      Oscar beat Strum Mayorga Mosley after the Iraq war began
                      Oscar didn't beat Strum or Mosley......

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