Can Floyd Mayweather be considered a HOF'er and ATG?

[Sugar May Floyd]

Oscar didn't beat Strum or Mosley......

Sturm fight, decision could have gone either way
But Molsey fight at 154 HE CLEARLY WON THAT

[IMDAZED]

How is the rest not irrelevant??? You are trying to make it out to be Mayweather never wanted to fight the best at 140 when he was clearly ducked.

How is the WBC a manufactured title bout.

Mayorga since 2003 beat Forrest TWICE
Oscar beat Strum Mayorga Mosley after the Iraq war began

I'm not trying to make it out as if he didn't want to. I'm simply pointing out that the five-weight class champ thing is overblown. He wasn't the true champ at 140 and you agreed, whether he wanted to be or not.

A manufactured bout is what happens when no one earns a shot at the title and that "title" bout is created out of thin air. Like in this case. Yes, Mayorga beat Forrest TWICE...at 147. And lost to Spinks...at 147. That loss is what earned him a shot at 154? Or was it the loss to Tito? Oscar beat Sturm at 160, not 154. So how did that earn him a shot at the 154 title? Or was it the loss to Hopkins that earned him a shot? You make me laugh.

[Sugar May Floyd]

I'm not trying to make it out as if he didn't want to. I'm simply pointing out that the five-weight class champ thing is overblown. He wasn't the true champ at 140 and you agreed, whether he wanted to be or not.

A manufactured bout is what happens when no one earns a shot at the title and that "title" bout is created out of thin air. Like in this case. Yes, Mayorga beat Forrest TWICE...at 147. And lost to Spinks...at 147. That loss is what earned him a shot at 154? Or was it the loss to Tito? Oscar beat Sturm at 160, not 154. So how did that earn him a shot at the 154 title? Or was it the loss to Hopkins that earned him a shot? You make me laugh.

I know what weight Oscar beat Strum but you asked what has he done but in any specific weight

You don't always have to go through ranking, that would be a waste of a time when you are known to be a talented boxer.

Pacman fought Diaz first fight at 135, he earn the shot. No because he done nothing at 135 before but was allowed of he is a great fighter like Oscar

[andrewcuff]

Mayweaher is an ATG Top 20, it's just these forums he is bashed on because it's dominated by racist Mexican and many white supremacists.

Mayweather is undefeated at 5 weight classes. Fought the best at 130,135,147 and 154. All were ranked as ring number one at the time. Most of his fights, pretty much all. Mayweather is the smaller guy yet still wins. The greatest 130 fighter of all time. Without doubt the most skilled boxer of all time

I love reading your posts:

#1 Top 20 ATG? You haven't seen many other boxers then, I'm guessing
#2 Fought the best at 140, 147, 154?
#3 Greatest 130lber of all time? Sanchez? Arguello? Nelson?
#4 Without out doubt the most skilled boxer of all time? Honestly have you seen a fight that doesn't feature Floyd?

[Sugar May Floyd]

I love reading your posts:

#1 Top 20 ATG? You haven't seen many other boxers then, I'm guessing
#2 Fought the best at 140, 147, 154?
#3 Greatest 130lber of all time? Sanchez? Arguello? Nelson?
#4 Without out doubt the most skilled boxer of all time? Honestly have you seen a fight that doesn't feature Floyd?

I love how you add words in my mouth. He did not fight the best at 140 since he was ducked by Hatton. Fought number ranked fighters at 147 and 154 FACT

[IMDAZED]

I know what weight Oscar beat Strum but you asked what has he done but in any specific weight

You don't always have to go through ranking, that would be a waste of a time when you are known to be a talented boxer.

Pacman fought Diaz first fight at 135, he earn the shot. No because he done nothing at 135 before but was allowed of he is a great fighter like Oscar

No I asked specifically what they had accomplished at 154 to deserve a shot. Still waiting for an answer.

So it's a waste of time to fight contenders when you're powerful enough to not have to earn a shot? Got it. You keep proving my point.

Pacman fought the weakest titlist at 135. Who said that was cool? Not me. Again, you keep proving my point.

Now...

[Testdead]

HOF not ATG ducked too many big fights throughout his career.

[andrewcuff]

I love how you add words in my mouth. He did not fight the best at 140 since he was ducked by Hatton. Fought number ranked fighters at 147 and 154 FACT

Oh thats my bad I thought you'd included 140 in that list, but the rest of it is nonsense. Fought the best at 147 and 154, please?

Btw, I'd like to see your Top 20 ATG list to see which ATG fighters you think Floyd is greater than.

[CRESCENDOPOWER]

I love reading your posts:

#1 Top 20 ATG? You haven't seen many other boxers then, I'm guessing
#2 Fought the best at 140, 147, 154?
#3 Greatest 130lber of all time? Sanchez? Arguello? Nelson?
#4 Without out doubt the most skilled boxer of all time? Honestly have you seen a fight that doesn't feature Floyd?

Come on man! I love every boxer in your favorite fighters list, but you are not giving Floyd near the credit he deserves at the lower weights.

[andrewcuff]

Come on man! I love every boxer in your favorite fighters list, but you are not giving Floyd near the credit he deserves at the lower weights.

At 130 and 135, he achieved a lot. Not nearly enough to be considered the best in each weight class, but a lot.

Its when he turns into his Money persona and starts cherry picking his fights while proclaiming he beats anyone 154 and under that bothers me.

I'll give him credit as a HOF'er 100%, but as a top 50 ATG, I'm not entirely convinced.