Carl Froch Fires Back at Jermain Taylor Over Calzaghe Jab

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

jc beat to old timers both wud punish you your losein fans with ur down talkin of are great champion you will never beat joes record of 46 fights unbeaten kessler hopkins would easy beat you youra tough kid no beter than pavlik an bhop tpaed dat arse all night your so green with envy of the best middleweight its sad and what if joe never went to the u,s u,s aint all that anyway kessler was a true champ and wont lose again only joe will have beaten him and i hope you face kessler just to see you lose and then maybe a bit of respect will come out your mouth you beat taylor you get props but taylor aint no kessler either

Taylor is gonna dust Frotch and would dust Kessler too.....B Hop would dust Frotch and give Kessler a boxing lesson as well. Props to JC he fought Hopkins and edged him out on the cards. he beat RJJ in a dominating fashion. He threw down with Kessler and won that fight as well. JT has skils people arent expecting much of him the was they were when he was the man at 160 so he might surprise you now the pressure is not as intense....Lefty

[Mr. Philadel]

Froch doesn't respect NOBODY ......it seems as though he likes to play the villian and he's doing a dam good job being that......people will watch and buy his fights just to see him get KTFO (like they do Floyd) and that can be rewarding

[Jexy55]

I hope Taylor rips this guy to pieces. Really cant stand him.

[Chase8400]

Pascal was a real threat and Carl blew him up? Seriously? Pascal fought nobody of note prior to Froch; yes he showed brief flashes of natural ability but overall was seriously lacking in fundamentals. And if Pascal had done any work in the latter rounds, he would've won the fight. Instead he just stood there trying to dodge punches. Kudos to Carl for the hard-fought win, but it doesn't rank as all that impressive in my book.

And how did Lacy almost beat Taylor? Other than a debatable flash knockdown, Lacy was completely dominated from bell to bell.

Froch did indeed beat Pascal pretty much start to finish and he tried his ass off to win the end of the fight, he was just outhustled and outmuscled. Froch beat him 'bell to bell'. No doubt. Anyone who has seen Pascal fight more than once knows he is no average fighter and even though his opposition has not been the most elite of fighters, he is not beating up on complete tomato cans either.

In my opinion, Taylor didn't look all that spectacular against Lacy at all. I like Taylor allot, but his best days are behind him in my opinion. He was hit way too much by the lazy and slow Lacy for comfort, I'm afaraid. If he were to face Froch, I would say the fight would be close unless Froch went jab crazy. That would be the key to a convincing victory over Jermaine in my opinion. Blind him with the jab and put the right hand right behind it. In the Pascal fight, Froch proved that he can do that very well and he is no walk over for JT. I cannot wait for the fight to get signed. I'm looking forward to it.

[WESS]

Froch is a joke.......

I had him winning against Pacal by only a round. I don't know WTF the judges watched. He should give Pascal a rematch and then talk to Taylor.

Or maybe step his game up and give Pavlik a good punching bag!

Anyway I dislike sloppy Joe but damn, Froch has no room to be talking trash about Joe..... he does have potential though.....

[Chase8400]

Your absolutely right, and that's putting it lightly.

Chase, WTF man, that was random. Lacy almost beat Taylor, and Frochs win over a un proven fighter let alone belt challenger, should be considered as good as beating a belt holder.

That's some fooking ridiculous talk right there.

And you've ducked me taking apart your misleading sig too;

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...13#post4715013



Dude I like you, but your talking some real whack, attack.

Kris, Kris, Kris.......I'm going to allow you to take my post off your sig before I go ballistic. Jk.

I really thought you respected me. I don't duck anything I'm aware of. (never saw that post) Don't let my overall signature poster persuade your better judgement. I respect Calzaghe and hold him in very high regaurd in the ring. I just wanted to set the record straight about how Calzaghe felt prior to the Jones decline as opposed to how he felt after Roy was knocked out cold twice after basically fighting nothing like he did before the jump up to heavyweight.

On subject: Froch showed he is no fraud and I for one took the message. I can recognize quality boxing/fighting and know he is the goods. I'm nowhere close to saying he is a Joe Calzaghe or even a Hatton, but the guy has heart and he actually has some skills that I didn't initially give him credit for until the Pascal fight was over. You were witness to my skeptisizm if I recall correctly. Lacy hit Taylor way too much and had him hurt with a legal shot at one point. Even that being said, it all comes down to opinion and I am entitled to mine as well the last time I checked. Am I not?

[dstew]

Froch did indeed beat Pascal pretty much start to finish and he tried his ass off to win the end of the fight, he was just outhustled and outmuscled. Froch beat him 'bell to bell'. No doubt. Anyone who has seen Pascal fight more than once knows he is no average fighter and even though his opposition has not been the most elite of fighters, he is not beating up on complete tomato cans either.

In my opinion, Taylor didn't look all that spectacular against Lacy at all. I like Taylor allot, but his best days are behind him in my opinion. He was hit way too much by the lazy and slow Lacy for comfort, I'm afaraid. If he were to face Froch, I would say the fight would be close unless Froch went jab crazy. That would be the key to a convincing victory over Jermaine in my opinion. Blind him with the jab and put the right hand right behind it. In the Pascal fight, Froch proved that he can do that very well and he is no walk over for JT. I cannot wait for the fight to get signed. I'm looking forward to it.

I have no idea which fights you were watching.

Even Froch fans thought he only won by a round or two. Go check out the forum on his website if you don't believe me. It was far from a dominant performance. Froch showed an impressive (but not great by any means) jab late in the fight, but even most of those didn't catch Pascal whose reflexes and head movement kept him off the mat. Pascal was gassed from about the sixth round on, and might've shown a little more activity once or twice before the final bell but he was hardly presenting Froch with ANYTHING from rounds 7-12.

When Pascal did go on the offensive, he was the faster, more accurate puncher, for sure, but he didn't give Froch a taste of anything like what he'll see in the Taylor fight - constant jabbing, good defense, good counterpunching, good combinations... Froch is going to have to step it up another level if he wants to beat Taylor but I'm willing to bet he's already at his ceiling.

As for Taylor/Lacy... the only thing missing from that fight was a knockout. Jermain had his way with Jeff, beating him from bell to bell, jabbing him at will, buckling his knees several times. At one point he hit him with a series of five straight jabs and a left hook in rapid succession, with no answer from Lacy. And if you look at the punchstats, Lacy only landed 75 shots in 12 rounds (6 per round), which is an utterly abysmal figure, not to even mention his laughable 17% connect rate. You saying Taylor was hit too much really has me questioning which fight you were watching.

Should there have been a knockout? Ideally, yes. But even without it was an overwhelming dominant performance by JT.

[Altair]

Man I really hope jermain wipes the floor with him. Hes really full of himself I really cant stand him

[S A M U R A I]

Froch is a geek.

Am I then only one who thinks this?

Everything he says is so contrived.

Remember when they made him have that phone call to Calzaghe in the run-up to that fight with that rubbish Polish guy. He was polite and gracious on the phone.

It's all just an act and he's trying to get paid. But it's old-skool, boring trash-talk. Zero marks for creativity.

I remember that phone call. Didn't Calzaghe say it's all about the money and Froch brings basically **** all?



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[Kris Silver]

Kris, Kris, Kris.......I'm going to allow you to take my post off your sig before I go ballistic. Jk.

I really thought you respected me. I don't duck anything I'm aware of. (never saw that post) Don't let my overall signature poster persuade your better judgement. I respect Calzaghe and hold him in very high regaurd in the ring. I just wanted to set the record straight about how Calzaghe felt prior to the Jones decline as opposed to how he felt after Roy was knocked out cold twice after basically fighting nothing like he did before the jump up to heavyweight.

On subject: Froch showed he is no fraud and I for one took the message. I can recognize quality boxing/fighting and know he is the goods. I'm nowhere close to saying he is a Joe Calzaghe or even a Hatton, but the guy has heart and he actually has some skills that I didn't initially give him credit for until the Pascal fight was over. You were witness to my skeptisizm if I recall correctly. Lacy hit Taylor way too much and had him hurt with a legal shot at one point. Even that being said, it all comes down to opinion and I am entitled to mine as well the last time I checked. Am I not?

You know I respect you fella, hence mentioning my high thoughts for you a few times, I think dstew suggested as much too. All good.

But saying Taylor only just beat Lacy is ridiculous, and most will agree. Taylor clearly, widely beat him, and only Lacy thought he won ludicrously. To say it was close isn't as bad, but most would damn well laugh and question your judgement. Say what you like, the fight was not close so to make out it was is very misleading and questions your judgement if you really believe that.

Secondly on Froch, I don't think our views differ too much really. But I do find a double standard in your argument. You criticised Kessler heavily for not having faced top competition when in the division he has. Yet you don't hold the same level of critique for that on the part of Pascal whom is vastly more guilty of that very criticism.

Take a look at Kesslers win over top division guys, and then try and even come close for Pascal.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=237830

Their not that far away in the rankings, Pascal is simply far far more guilty of this criticism and you decide to be harsher on Kessler for being far less guilty, yet manage to credit Pascal somehow as, as good as beating a belt holder. That seems very odd and of double standards. It was a vacant belt which Pascal also got a shot at due to others not choosing to just yet, and there's no getting away from that.

As for your sig, leaving it there for such a time signifies a real strong feeling of Calzaghe contradicting himself and never wanting to face Roy. It's as if you think it's major proof and a trophy win for something. It is one quote and quite a misleading one, not to mention because countless of times I and others have linked you MORE sources, from MORE reputable sources, MORE times consisting of clearer quotes from Calzaghe on Roy Jones. You've never really even credited or even acknowledged these much to the degree they beggar in contradiction to your quote. This suggests your just dismissive to believing anything bar that one measely quote in your signature. That's misleading and carefully particular about minority information to over play, whilst down playing some stronger majority information.

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