Joe Calzaghe Has No Regrets, May Return One Day

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  • Roger Mellie
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    #21
    Same tired old **** being dribbled out in these threads day after day

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    • Ravens Fan
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      Many of you keep saying that Joe has to fight Dawson to be recognized as great. My question is who the hell has Dawson fought? Chad beat a 40 year old Tarver and many believe he lost to a 40 year old Johnson and he beat a couple of bums. And now he is fighting an even older Tarver. The fact is the only quality win he has is his win over Adamek and that may have been because the Pole had trouble making weight. So, let me see if I have this right. Chad beats two old men and he is considered the greatest and Joe unifies one weight division and moves up beats two top ten light heavy's, one of whom was the reigning Ring champ, but he is not considered great because he beat two old men. My question is if Dawson was a Welsh fighter would he be considered great? What a smelly pile of bull****.
      Last edited by Ravens Fan; 02-09-2009, 09:24 AM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Ravens Fan
        Many of you keep saying that Joe has to fight Dawson to be recognized as great. My question is who the hell has Dawson fought? Chad beat a 40 year old Tarver and many believe he lost to a 40 year old Johnson and he beat a couple of bums. And now he is fighting an even older Tarver. The fact is the only quality win he has is his win over Adamek and that may have been because the Pole had trouble making weight. So, let me see if I have this right. Chad beats two old men and he is considered the greatest and Joe unifies one weight division and moves up beats two top ten light heavy's, one of whom was the reigning Ring champ, but he is not considered great because he beat two old men. My question is if Dawson was a Welsh fighter would he be considered great? What a smelly pile of bull****.
        Excuses are like *ssholes and elbows, almost everybody has them. The fact of the matter is that Chad did beat Johnson and Tarver and while they are considered old, they still have been impressive and either a world title holder or beat up on solid competition. Nobody said they were over the hill when they were both blasting on guys prior to the Dawson fights. The Adamek win is even more impressive considering how he has now laid claim to the undisputed CW title. He carried his power up easily and fought a good fight against Dawson, but just came up short. Calzaghe beat a lion in Kessler and two oldies over the last two years but I would have to say Dawson's resume' over that period is more impressive because he beat two older fighters who are still game and not shells of their former selves. Calzaghe owes boxing a win against the best @ light-heavy before he leaves for good. Without beating Dawson, he cannot call himself the best at light heavyweight. I don't care what 'Ring' says.

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        • The Mirror Man
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          #24
          come on now joe

          come on now joe you havent been retired 48 hours yet and your already thinking of coming out of retirement already please stay retired your chin anit all that any more

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            Calzaghe retired undefeated. Not many fighters do that, especially in World Class boxing.

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              #26
              I'm not a fan, but I hope he does stay retired.

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              • Brassangel
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                #27
                Originally posted by tyde13
                if he truly had no regrets, he wouldn't even be thinking of "maybe one day in the future.."

                you retired, stay retired, otherwise let bad chad get a piece of that ass now.
                Chad and Joe are a generation apart. There's no reason for them to fight. It was like Holmes hanging around to fight Tyson and Holyfield. He had already accomplished enough, and beat everybody in his time. Joe did the right thing by retiring.

                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                joe should fight dawson when joe's 43.

                then dawson and his fans can claim to be better than calzaghe's sorry ass......
                Joe was 36, which for a guy who relied on speed and volume punching is well passed his prime. Beating a BHop at 43 who was completely resurgent was impressive.

                Originally posted by dde91
                Who has Kessler fought? and a 18 win Jeff BUM lacy! A 40 yr. Roy OLD Jones Jr. And A 43 yr olds hopkins that got robbed by the judges. *Calzaghe didn't even hit him at all, he hit his arms and elbows the whole fight* I guess your the best if you fight have the weakest resume. I respect Mayorga's, DLH's, And even Mayweathers resume before i respect Calzaghes.
                This just proves that you didn't watch the Hopkins fight. After round 5, Calzaghe was landing all the puches, making sweat fly from Hop's head, and tiring him out. In fact, he was smacking him around so bad that Hop had to fake the low-blow in the 10th to catch a breather. He would have suffered a TKO without it. Besides, Hopkins looked better at 43 than he did in the last 3 years of his reign as Middleweight Champion. Jones was only 2.5 years older than Calzaghe, so whatever your excuse is there...

                It also doesn't matter who Kessler has fought; just watch him fight. He's big, strong, fast, technically sound, and tough to hit. The man's a stud, and Joe had to overcome another slow start to take it late. Kessler could probably beat everyone else at 168.

                Originally posted by mojack
                What will happen if Calzaghe faught Chad is .....

                1. Chad will lose, Zaghes far more experienced.
                2. Chad would get a payday.
                3. Calzaghe (AGAIN) won't get any credit for the win, "Chad is wet behind the ears", "Chad was overated anyway, another Jeff Lacy"....bla blaaa blaaa it will be Pavlik Hopkins all over again.

                There is nobody out there for Calzaghe, if there is they will lose unless they can knock him out, which ain't happening. Get over it.
                Bingo. Everyone will suddenly claim that they knew Dawson was overrated, and then they will use that to say that Calzaghe only fights overrated bums. A new flavor of the week will emerge, and JoeCal won't get credit unless he fights him.

                Originally posted by Chase8400
                Excuses are like *ssholes and elbows, almost everybody has them. The fact of the matter is that Chad did beat Johnson and Tarver and while they are considered old, they still have been impressive and either a world title holder or beat up on solid competition. Nobody said they were over the hill when they were both blasting on guys prior to the Dawson fights. The Adamek win is even more impressive considering how he has now laid claim to the undisputed CW title. He carried his power up easily and fought a good fight against Dawson, but just came up short. Calzaghe beat a lion in Kessler and two oldies over the last two years but I would have to say Dawson's resume' over that period is more impressive because he beat two older fighters who are still game and not shells of their former selves. Calzaghe owes boxing a win against the best @ light-heavy before he leaves for good. Without beating Dawson, he cannot call himself the best at light heavyweight. I don't care what 'Ring' says.
                Hopkins isn't game? He's leagues above Johnson and Tarver combined. He's better now than he was in the final 3 years of his reign at Middleweight. Joe beat him with heart, guts, and a ridiculous work-rate. The fact that he could still do that with speed and volume punching at age 36 is far more impressive than anything Chad's done.

                Again, they are a part of different generations. Joe has passed the torch to Chad without the need to fight. The ONLY reason people are claiming that Calzaghe needs to fight Dawson is because they don't want to give Cal the credit he deserves. I'm an American who was pulling for Hopkins and Jones Jr., but what I saw was the best fighter of his generation outclass them both. It ****** to admit it, but he's an all-time great, and easily the best ever at 168.

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                  #28
                  Joe will come back and challenge Ali once he gets a little older... To riskey right now...

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                  • Chase8400
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Brassangel
                    Hopkins isn't game? A win over Hopkins alone is a bigger accomplishment than beating Tarver and Johnson more convincingly than Calzaghe beat B-hop.
                    I summed that long reply up into a slimmer , more accurate version of what you were saying.

                    If you somehow think that beating untested Kessler(before and after), old B-hop by a thread and beating a basic shell of a fighter that looked exactly like Roy Jones Jr. while almost getting knocked out is better than beating Adamek, Johnson and Tarver convincingly in 2 years time, there is no saving you. I'm sorry bro.....

                    Calzaghe fooled you too and you should be ashamed of yourself as well.
                    I think Joe is one outstanding fighter for sure, but he did too little, way too late if this is indeed the end.

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                      Originally posted by Chase8400
                      I summed that long reply up into a slimmer , more accurate version of what you were saying.

                      If you somehow think that beating untested Kessler(before and after), old B-hop by a thread and beating a basic shell of a fighter that looked exactly like Roy Jones Jr. while almost getting knocked out is better than beating Adamek, Johnson and Tarver convincingly in 2 years time, there is no saving you. I'm sorry bro.....

                      Calzaghe fooled you too and you should be ashamed of yourself as well.
                      I think Joe is one outstanding fighter for sure, but he did too little, way too late if this is indeed the end.
                      You cannot get away from the facts that

                      -Kessler is the #1 guy at SMW, above even Taylor.

                      -Hopkins was p4p top 5 and still is, due to dominating wins over top guys either side of his loss to Joe

                      -Roy Jones is only a few years older than Joe, and is the same age roughly as Johnson and Tarver. Now I know your going to move onto the next RJJ excuse which holds some ground, but age wise there's not much of a leg to stand on.

                      -Tarver looked way past prime and flat against a Woods that simply did not show up.

                      -If anyone was nearly knocked out it was Dawson against Johnson, where there's way more people whom feel Johnson won as compared with Joes win over Hopkins.


                      If you can't see that Joe was barely phased by those 2 knockdowns, and that they were no way near knocking him out, then you really are deluded and refusing to accept what's before your eyes my friend.

                      Most accept Calzaghe has a tough chin and have NEVER come close to being knocked out, perhaps you should to, as oddly enough Dawson was more phased, more hurt, more often by Johnson whom is a lower ranked LHW.

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