If Manny Pacquiao Beats Hatton, Mayweather, & Cotto = Fighter of the Decade?

[haploid]

There are a number of things that can happen before he retires. It all depends on outcome of the next Phil election. Three things can happen:

1. He will win the election and transform himself from the most beloved athlete to the worst traditional politician in the Philippines. Then its bye bye Packy.. You wont see him in the squared circle again as he will be busy looting the town's coffers to maintain his lavish lifestyle.
2. He loses and blows away millions of dollars worth of campaign money (it was reported he lost 2M USD in the last election) which forces him to continue fighting. If this happens it will be a great day for boxing, and great day for General Santos City...
3. He loses but retires anyway (to me this is a long shot, not because I think he is goin to win the election, but because I am more definite about scenario #2)

Goin back to the topic, he needs to beat Hatton, PBF, and the lineal champ of 147 whether Mosley,Marg, or Cotto. But right now he is already in the ATG list(between 40 - 50).

As a Filipino, I am definitely sure Manny won't win the election. We will absolutely make sure of that. He will continue boxing till 2010. Count on it.

[joseph5620]

srr wasn't out of place fighting lamotta. srr was 5'11 for chrissake, same height as margo who most ppl here thinks he should be fighting one division higher. and lamotta was a short blownup middleweight at 5'8 only. not taking anything from srr, he's my #1atg, but when he first beat lamotta at 160, jake was a green 20yr old, same as he. he would fight him again 3 times later in his career but srr too have to move up in weight as do all others late in their careers.

It amuses me when people equate height with weight. The fact is Robinson was a welterweight and Lamotta was a middlweight. Period.I don't care if SRR was 7foot and he came in as light as 144 for one of the fights. Lamotta struggled to make 160 so I'm not buying your "blown up middlweight" theory. In fact, Lamotta says he wishes the super middlweight division existed when he was fighting because that's where he said he belonged. Mike Tyson is 5-10. Paul Williams is 6-2. Are they the same size? I hope you get the point.

[Fights]

If he were to get past Hatton and beat Mayweather he is easily the fighter of the decade.

May Pac bout seems likely to happen.

[fcastro1]

Manny was also outboxed by a past his prime Eric Morales. Something no one wants to talk about anymore. And Morales was completely washed up the other two times they fought. No one can seriously count those as big wins. Barrera was also past his prime and that can't be ignored. He certainly wasn't better than Jose Luis Castillo or Diego Corrales when Mayweather fought them. His win over JMM is also questionable and not a defining win IMO. The Hatton fight is his toughest fight yet IMO. I also think people are sleeping on Hatton as if this is a sure thing for Pacquiao.There might be some very surprised and disappointed fans here. Throw out the weight drained 35year old Delahoya. Either way, I rank Mayweather higher because he is unbeaten and has been more dominant in his fights.

so you are basically saying that all his victories against hofs 6-1-1 was down to luck. you sound ****** to me. barrera was 3 p4p beat hamed, morales, kelly. and having barrera and morales on your resume is way better than corrales and castillo. they are not even hall of famers.

Achievment wise pac has a better record. better comp. equal to armstrong, and a flyweight.

floyd is a 5 weight champ and an unblemished record, but so has calzaghe and were not even mentioning him as an all time great.

[joseph5620]

[QUOTE=fcastro1;4659571]so you are basically saying that all his victories against hofs 6-1-1 was down to luck. you sound ****** to me.


I never used the word "luck." You look ****** for misquoting me. What I'm saying is I don't overrate his wins by swininging on his nuts like you do.



barrera was 3 p4p beat hamed, morales, kelly. and having barrera and morales on your resume is way better than corrales and castillo. they are not even hall of famers.

None of those fighters are in the hall of fame yet and if you think Barrera and Morales were in their primes, then you are in no position to call anybody "******". You also better take a look at the HOf and who is in there. You might be surprised by some of the fighters in there.


Achievment wise pac has a better record. better comp. equal to armstrong, and a flyweight.

I hope you're talking about Louie Armstrong because Pacs accomplishments are no where near Henry Armstrong's. When Pac holds three undisputed titles in three different weight classes at the same time, get back to me.

[TheGreatA]

[QUOTE=joseph5620;4659668]

I never used the word "luck." You look ****** for misquoting me. What I'm saying is I don't overrate his wins by swininging on his nuts like you do.

None of those fighters are in the hall of fame yet and if you think Barrera and Morales were in their primes, then you are in no position to call anybody "******". You also better take a look at the HOf and who is in there. You might be surprised by some of the fighters in there.

I hope you're talking about Louie Armstrong because Pacs accomplishments are no where near Henry Armstrong's. When Pac holds three undisputed titles in three different weight classes at the same time, get back to me.

I think Barrera was in his prime against Pacquiao (the first time) but otherwise I agree.

[mikemurni]

[QUOTE=joseph5620;4659668]

so you are basically saying that all his victories against hofs 6-1-1 was down to luck. you sound ****** to me.


I never used the word "luck." You look ****** for misquoting me. What I'm saying is I don't overrate his wins by swininging on his nuts like you do.



barrera was 3 p4p beat hamed, morales, kelly. and having barrera and morales on your resume is way better than corrales and castillo. they are not even hall of famers.

None of those fighters are in the hall of fame yet and if you think Barrera and Morales were in their primes, then you are in no position to call anybody "******". You also better take a look at the HOf and who is in there. You might be surprised by some of the fighters in there.


Achievment wise pac has a better record. better comp. equal to armstrong, and a flyweight.

I hope you're talking about Louie Armstrong because Pacs accomplishments are no where near Henry Armstrong's. When Pac holds three undisputed titles in three different weight classes at the same time, get back to me.

Try to get your facts straight. They were the best fighters in Pac's division and the same time in the P4P list when he fought them.. They are far away from being washed up.. in fact, I could even say they were in their primes. They wouldn't be in the P4P list if they still were not prime or a little past prime..

[TRAVI$]

Top 5 of all time
Arguably Top 3, but I won't start that.

[joseph5620]

[QUOTE=mikemurni;4659753]

Try to get your facts straight. They were the best fighters in Pac's division and the same time in the P4P list when he fought them.. They are far away from being washed up.. in fact, I could even say they were in their primes. They wouldn't be in the P4P list if they still were not prime or a little past prime..

You could make a case for Barrera the first time but no way in hell was Morales in his prime when he fought Pacquiao. Take a look at Morales last 5 or 6 fights before Pacquiao if you don't believe me.

[fcastro1]

[QUOTE=joseph5620;4659668]

so you are basically saying that all his victories against hofs 6-1-1 was down to luck. you sound ****** to me.


I never used the word "luck." You look ****** for misquoting me. What I'm saying is I don't overrate his wins by swininging on his nuts like you do.



barrera was 3 p4p beat hamed, morales, kelly. and having barrera and morales on your resume is way better than corrales and castillo. they are not even hall of famers.

None of those fighters are in the hall of fame yet and if you think Barrera and Morales were in their primes, then you are in no position to call anybody "******". You also better take a look at the HOf and who is in there. You might be surprised by some of the fighters in there.


Achievment wise pac has a better record. better comp. equal to armstrong, and a flyweight.

I hope you're talking about Louie Armstrong because Pacs accomplishments are no where near Henry Armstrong's. When Pac holds three undisputed titles in three different weight classes at the same time, get back to me.

first pac is going for his 4th lineal championship, which is the closest anyone will get to being undisputed in different weight classes. And you are blatantly a hater if you do not consider the morales and barrera wins as great accomplishments. pac beat morales aged 29, how is that way over the hill. pac is in his peak and he is 30.