Bernard Hopkins is Overrated....

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  • circleinsidebox
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    #21
    Originally posted by hammerhiem
    BHop probably has the best resume of any current boxer.
    you can't have resume as ur basis for greatness
    otherwise with that logic, roy is the greater fighter
    because he beat hopkins....

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    • Ryn0
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      #22
      Hopkins has lost RAZOR thin decisions to Taylor and Calzaghe. They were razor thin, faster fighters do perform better against Hopkins than one dimensional fighters but the fact that he makes it very close everytime shows they aren't exactly dominating him.

      Tarver isn't slow, Wright has a great boxing brain and defense, Joppy is a fairly well rounded fighter and Hopkins is the only guy to stop Johnson who has a great chin

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      • larryx
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        #23
        Originally posted by circleinsidebox

        this has to be the most misunderstood thread posted....
        bernard is great, im not taking anything away from him
        but he isn't a LEGEND

        he has shown that he is not that COMPLETE of a fighter
        he can't even be competitive with fast fighters with great reflexes

        roy jones jr
        joe calzaghe
        jermain taylor
        chad dawson (whom he won't fight for reasons mentioned in the intial post)
        no this is a hate thread..other wise theres no point to post this bull****

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          #24
          Originally posted by circleinsidebox
          read above post
          I'll ask again:

          Roy is only slightly better in terms of ATG

          How is Hopkins overrated?

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            #25
            Originally posted by nathan_nall
            I think Hopkins is a legend, but I believe his status as a legend has been built over the last 5 or 6 years... previous to that he was fighting organization selected mandatories.

            bernard was a great fighter, no legend
            at the end of the day
            what did bhop do that was monumental and
            something we will always remember...
            im sorry but his middleweight defense record
            is overrated, his opposition wasn't that great
            not his fault, but o well

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            • larryx
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              #26
              Originally posted by circleinsidebox

              this has to be the most misunderstood thread posted....
              bernard is great, im not taking anything away from him
              but he isn't a LEGEND

              he has shown that he is not that COMPLETE of a fighter
              he can't even be competitive with fast fighters with great reflexes

              roy jones jr
              joe calzaghe
              jermain taylor
              chad dawson (whom he won't fight for reasons mentioned in the intial post)
              when has hopkins not been competitive..this shows how ignorant you are

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              • Spacey1991
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                #27
                He isn't over rated, he is a great fighter... especially at the age of 43, he proved that against Pavlik. He is a true champion and has achieved a lot in boxing and I give him all the credit he deserves.

                If he isn't a legend, then why is he going to be in the 'Hall of Fame' and I think he is in the 'Top 50 Greatest of All Time'. Anyway, my opinion is he is a great fighter with great skills... he has come from the very bottom being in prison to the very top, and is probably true inspiration to a lot of people, give the guy some credit come on.

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                • hammerhiem
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by circleinsidebox
                  you can't have resume as ur basis for greatness
                  otherwise with that logic, roy is the greater fighter
                  because he beat hopkins....
                  Resume IS the basis for greatness, everything else is just trimmings.

                  One fight is not a resume.

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                    #29
                    If Hopkins is overrated, and Jones beat a relatively green version, I guess Jones is REALLY overrated.

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                    • circleinsidebox
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by larryx
                      no this is a hate thread..other wise theres no point to post this bull****
                      i love bernard he is one of my fav fighters
                      i just think people have lost their minds because
                      since he beat pavlik im just bringing you back to earth
                      and putting things into perspective...
                      again...GREAT FIGHTER, i love him
                      but not a legend

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