1977 is when I started taking notice of boxing, and in the following years I got deeper into it. What's that... longer than you've been alive?
maybe for him but not for me
all the credit in the world should go to Manny for executing Freddie's plan to tee. He has shown so much improvement from the time he crashed on the scene that IMO he deserves to be the #1 P4P guy in the sport
but let's not just sweep everything under the rug in regards to Oscar
he couldn't keep anything down. Not fluids not food nada. Roach even admitted to seeing fresh IV marks on Oscar so that is a true indicator of a man who cannot hydrate himself properly.
I spoke to David Avila, a well known boxing scribe, about Oscar being at weight so soon. He told me he does marathons and that it's not necessarily a bad thing to be on weight so soon BUT it will shrink his stomach AND make his body change to fit his training. From what I have been told (I work for MaxBoxing and BoxingScene as well as Everlast and Team Margarito) DLH and his fitness team (Nacho is not a part of that only thet actual boxing training) spent a lot of time focusing on stamina and running. Edwin Valero said the same thing and that the camp was a farce with very little actual boxing going on (mostly for the 24/7 cameras) so he spent it sparring with the other fighters and was basically let go with the main sparring going to Fred Tukes and Mookie Pendarvis
he prepped wrong and it showed. For people not to see that does indeed question whether they really know the sport especially when the norm is about a 5-7% weight gain after initial weigh in. Oscar gained about 1.5%.
Don't be so sure... a smaller man can whup a bigger mans ass with speed and skill. Yes Margarito is bigger, has a chin and stamina.. but he lacks boxing skills. Pac could nulllify the punching power with good footwork.. and as far as offense.. he would land all day on Margarito.. Margarito's only chance would be a KO. Just like Pavlik's only chance against Hopkins was a KO. What happened in that fight? If Margarito doesnt KO Pac then what? we already know Pac is going to land that straight left all night long.
Don't be so sure... a smaller man can whup a bigger mans ass with speed and skill. Yes Margarito is bigger, has a chin and stamina.. but he lacks boxing skills. Pac could nulllify the punching power with good footwork.. and as far as offense.. he would land all day on Margarito.. Margarito's only chance would be a KO. Just like Pavlik's only chance against Hopkins was a KO. What happened in that fight? If Margarito doesnt KO Pac then what? we already know Pac is going to land that straight left all night long.
Carlisle - you're one of the more astute posters on here but I have to disagree.
Margarito has PLENTY of boxing skill. What he lacks is speed, which makes him look lumbering and oafish. But Margarito is active, jabs well, works the body, throws nice combinations, cuts off the ring like a vet, he's even fought southpaw effectively countless times. Boxing skill is not something he lacks. Speed and aesthetic beauty, yes.
Don't be so sure... a smaller man can whup a bigger mans ass with speed and skill. Yes Margarito is bigger, has a chin and stamina.. but he lacks boxing skills. Pac could nulllify the punching power with good footwork.. and as far as offense.. he would land all day on Margarito.. Margarito's only chance would be a KO. Just like Pavlik's only chance against Hopkins was a KO. What happened in that fight? If Margarito doesnt KO Pac then what? we already know Pac is going to land that straight left all night long.
Hey did you see how Cotto was landing all day, Used superior boxing skills, and had a great game plan which worked for about 4 rounds against Margarito.
I watch boxing and I box. Margarito can not box and he can be knocked out.
really I have been invloved in boxing since i was 13, fought amatuer and am now 36 teaching at a local gym 3 days a week.
You THINK margarito can't box but that's not the case. he may not be on the level that DLH, Pac or Mayweather is, but that doesn't mean he can't box.
Sometimes in boxing, WILL can carry you a long way. Cotto was by far the better polished fighter, not even close, yet Marg destroyed him. Marg has an incredible chin, I don't see anyone smaller than him KO'g him.
Marg also has relentless pressure that makes good boxers retreat and change their game plan.
In the fight vs Paul Williams, he was beat by accumulation of punches, not because Paul Williams was bigger or stronger. As a matter of fact, you need to watch the fight again because Marg was actually walking him down at the end of that fight and if you looked at who took more punishment, it was Williams by far.
Margarito knocks down lead jabs very well with his own lead hand. He also is a bit akward which makes him a tough fight for anyone. He comes in great shape and can go 12 rounds easily at a very high pace.
Don't sleep on Margarito, you underestimate his will to win and the fact that he's such a big welter makes him even that more dangerous for opponents.
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