African Americans have a hard time being a draw

[M.I Truth ?]

This does NOT apply to black only... I repeat, the does NOT apply to blacks only! It is hard to support ANYONE if they take on the attitude of being a victim in this country. Here in Phoenix, I pass by blacks, asians, and hispanics that are wearing 3 piece suits, carrying briefcases, and making more money than I EVER will. No one in the U.S. can claim to be a victim simply because of the color of their skin. I was born and raised for 23 years in southeast Arkansas. People are not descriminated against because of their skin, but regardless of your color, if you wear pants around your knees for your ass to show and don't learn proper grammar/pronunciation, its only natural that you get the second rate jobs and second rate pay. We are lightyears away from the days of being a colonies... so whites are no longer victims, we are so far removed from slavery and the civil rights movements of the 60's (which were great!)... blacks are no longer victims, the asian roundup of WWII is a memory... asians are no longer victims, and much has changed for hispanics with the help of Cezar Chavez and the ********ic party... hispanics are no longer victims.

If you act the part of a victim because of your color, and believe the world owes you something... to hell with you.

"I'll never let a white boy beat me!" Bernard Hopkins

LOL..... Now back to reality.

People of all races succeed but that in no way means the people don't get discriminated against. Race and religion are still means by witch people show hate. That hate doesn't go away just because you said so. I can tell you first hand that this stuff still exist. Doesn't mean it hasn't gotten better over time but to dismiss it all together is a joke. To love your country is criticize it when you feel it is wrong. To challenge it to get better and fix its problem. Its not about being owed something as you say but people who have had negative experiences in there life tend to become cynical and jaded. Your reality may not be the same as someone else's.

[AKATheMack]

I dont see white American fighters getting much love either, but that might just be because there arent that many good American fighters. Hatton, Pacman etc. have their whole country come to watch them fight Americans dont support their fighters in the same way. When we have hundreds and hundredsof pro sports teams and hundreds more individual athletes the support is more spread out.

[Squabbles94806]

Arggh....

Since the beginning of American History, Black African Americans helped build this country. They deserve the same credit (maybe even more) as the anglo saxon Europeans.

Fastforward through time...

These days, America is split right down the center. Black America and White America.

The reason why Filipinos, like myself, adored Pacquiao is because he's in the mainstream. An international celebrity known and loved throughout the world. But at the same time, he's just like any other Filipino. Sings karaokee and goes to church on Sunday. I'm just proud to actually see a Filipino in the mainstream and getting all this credit.

As for "Black American" fighters. Unless you've been living on another planet for the last century, they've attributed so much to the game of boxing. Ironically, "Black Americans" and the English are responsible for cultivating this sport of gentlemen.

I'm pretty sure when Jack Johnson was fighting, his strong base of fans were black. And i'm pretty sure they idolized him for going against the grain.

Fastforward through time...

Nowadays, Black African Americans are icons in the sport of boxing. I don't think they really need a strong base of "black" fans. But during the Joe Louis days, yeah sure they had to stand united.

Race does play a part of boxing. It's borderline subtle. But i think it's the pride of their heritage and country and culture that's represented in the ring. Which results in flag waving and slogans, and yadda yadda yadda.

IMO, Black African Americans are at the pinnacle of the boxing realm. Everyone adores them not because they're "black" but because they can fight. Attitudes and personas are immaterial and erroneous which have nothing to do with race.

Hopkins and Mayweather. Both "black", one's hated and one's loved.

[Flawless.]

I dont see white American fighters getting much love either, but that might just be because there arent that many good American fighters. Hatton, Pacman etc. have their whole country come to watch them fight Americans dont support their fighters in the same way. When we have hundreds and hundredsof pro sports teams and hundreds more individual athletes the support is more spread out.

That is a pretty good solid point

[kingofchaos66]

This does NOT apply to black only... I repeat, the does NOT apply to blacks only! It is hard to support ANYONE if they take on the attitude of being a victim in this country. Here in Phoenix, I pass by blacks, asians, and hispanics that are wearing 3 piece suits, carrying briefcases, and making more money than I EVER will. No one in the U.S. can claim to be a victim simply because of the color of their skin. I was born and raised for 23 years in southeast Arkansas. People are not descriminated against because of their skin, but regardless of your color, if you wear pants around your knees for your ass to show and don't learn proper grammar/pronunciation, its only natural that you get the second rate jobs and second rate pay. We are lightyears away from the days of being a colonies... so whites are no longer victims, we are so far removed from slavery and the civil rights movements of the 60's (which were great!)... blacks are no longer victims, the asian roundup of WWII is a memory... asians are no longer victims, and much has changed for hispanics with the help of Cezar Chavez and the ********ic party... hispanics are no longer victims.

If you act the part of a victim because of your color, and believe the world owes you something... to hell with you.

"I'll never let a white boy beat me!" Bernard Hopkins

Right... and Mexicans are no long picking fruits for a dollar an hour. And Cubans are no longer riding them banana boats. And Japan is in Europe.

[boxasmash]

because they dont win anything

[Flawless.]

because they dont win anything

I would have taken this bait, but I am not. I think I might have matured. This is a big day on boxing scene forums

[kingofchaos66]

Arggh....

Since the beginning of American History, Black African Americans helped build this country. They deserve the same credit (maybe even more) as the anglo saxon Europeans.

Fastforward through time...

These days, America is split right down the center. Black America and White America.

The reason why Filipinos, like myself, adored Pacquiao is because he's in the mainstream. An international celebrity known and loved throughout the world. But at the same time, he's just like any other Filipino. Sings karaokee and goes to church on Sunday. I'm just proud to actually see a Filipino in the mainstream and getting all this credit.

As for "Black American" fighters. Unless you've been living on another planet for the last century, they've attributed so much to the game of boxing. Ironically, "Black Americans" and the English are responsible for cultivating this sport of gentlemen.

I'm pretty sure when Jack Johnson was fighting, his strong base of fans were black. And i'm pretty sure they idolized him for going against the grain.

Fastforward through time...

Nowadays, Black African Americans are icons in the sport of boxing. I don't think they really need a strong base of "black" fans. But during the Joe Louis days, yeah sure they had to stand united.

Race does play a part of boxing. It's borderline subtle. But i think it's the pride of their heritage and country and culture that's represented in the ring. Which results in flag waving and slogans, and yadda yadda yadda.

IMO, Black African Americans are at the pinnacle of the boxing realm. Everyone adores them not because they're "black" but because they can fight. Attitudes and personas are immaterial and erroneous which have nothing to do with race.

Hopkins and Mayweather. Both "black", one's hated and one's loved.

Sings to karaoke and church on sundays. lolz. what about cheers for Pacquiao on saturdays?

[williamhvx1]

i think they are boring to watch ... compare a pacman vs marquez fight to a hopkins vs taylor fight?

[DarchinyFAN]

Name me a black fighter who has the draw strong as Hatton

There are very few in the sport supported like Ricky Hatton. There may be guys who draw home support as well as he does, but he has a legion that follows him around the world.