Better legacy. Marciano or Mayweather Jr?

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  • larryx
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    #71
    Originally posted by Mike Tyson77
    And Floyd ducked Pac and Margo,cotto. Marciano is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY greater than gayweather.
    man you dont know **** about boxing..cotto and margo???floyd was at welter fot 1 and a half year..what about the othe 9 years and all the championship fights he;s had..and he ducked pacman???lol

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    • Benny Leonard
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      #72
      Originally posted by BatTheMan
      Are you implying that Floyd is still a junior WW?

      Depends on how you want to look at it. If we go by fight-time weight based on other JrWW fight time weight...yeah...149 is what most JrWW fight at by fight time. Pac was 147 pounds for fight-time when he fought at 135. Floyd at 149 is a Welterweight if we want to go by actual division weight and not fight-time weight. If we stick with fight-time weight, what is Margarito, Williams (when he was there), Cotto, and the rest?

      Is he a JrWW? NO..not at the end of the day because he fought at WW last, but so did Pac {joke}. Floyd won the 147 title so he has to count as a WW obviously.

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      • larryx
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        #73
        Originally posted by BatTheMan
        Are you implying that Floyd is still a junior WW?
        um????yea..he's a blown up jww

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        • BattlingNelson
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          #74
          Originally posted by larryx
          mayweather..he went thru 5 divisions
          Beating an alphabet champ really aint that big of an achievement in itself.

          Ray Leonard became champion at 168 and 175 by beating Don Lalonde who was then 175 champion and considered the weakest of the alphabet champs at the time.

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          • Bhopreign
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            #75
            If we are talking about legacy and what that word means right now its Marciano because many more know him, but Floyd isnt finished. Marciano like Oscar, beat old champs who were not at their best, skillwise many were better, he was relentless though.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Benny Leonard
              Depends on how you want to look at it. If we go by fight-time weight based on other JrWW fight time weight...yeah...149 is what most JrWW fight at by fight time. Pac was 147 pounds for fight-time when he fought at 135. Floyd at 149 is a Welterweight if we want to go by actual division weight and not fight-time weight. If we stick with fight-time weight, what is Margarito, Williams (when he was there), Cotto, and the rest?

              Is he a JrWW? NO..not at the end of the day because he fought at WW last, but so did Pac {joke}. Floyd won the 147 title so he has to count as a WW obviously.
              It was not a trick question. I dont know much about the fighting weights TBH. It's a bit off-topic but on appearance it seems to me that Pac is the smaller man compared to Mayweather.

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                #77
                Originally posted by larryx
                um????yea..he's a blown up jww
                What does that mean? Is he a WW or JWW?

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                • larryx
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by BatTheMan
                  Beating an alphabet champ really aint that big of an achievement in itself.

                  Ray Leonard became champion at 168 and 175 by beating Don Lalonde who was then 175 champion and considered the weakest of the alphabet champs at the time.
                  true but mayweather was the lineal champ 3 of those 5 times..and going from 130 and beating oscar for the wbc belt at 154 is a big accomplishment

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                  • S.G.
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                    #79
                    take into account skills and talent as well as resume and there is only one winner - Money May

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                    • larryx
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by BatTheMan
                      What does that mean? Is he a WW or JWW?
                      obviously he was THE welterweight champ..but like he said when he beat oscar when he weighed 148..you just saw a welterweight beat a middleweight..so all his welterweight fights he was basically a jww beating ww

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