Better legacy. Marciano or Mayweather Jr?

[TheGreatA]

Ezzard Charles started his career at MW, and was known as Great LH in his prime. By the time he got to Marciano, how many defeats did Charles have at the time and how many times had he been knocked out and by who?

Charles was without a doubt past his prime but he was still a very good fighter. The first Marciano fight was one of his greatest performances.

Here's the fight that got Charles his title shot:

Mental Status: Accoding to Sugar, he wasn't the same fighter after killing someone in the ring.

Bert Sugar says a lot of things... Charles was 26 when he killed Baroudi and went on to become a great heavyweight after that.

Walcott: According to Bert Sugar, he was known as a journeyman for a long time. They guy was knocked out by Abe Simon way before Marciano got to him. Abe Simon was the guy that was knocked out by a prime Joe Louis.
And while we are talking about Louis, a Past Prime Joe Louis knocked Walcott out before Marciano got to him.

Walcott was an inconsistent fighter. He had many ugly losses but also great wins over Charles, Harold Johnson, Joey Maxim, Elmer Ray, Jimmy Bivins...

He should've won the first fight against Louis, and was winning the second one until Louis caught him in the 11th.

You can see how inconsistent he was even against Marciano. The first fight was one of Walcott's best performances in which he gave Marciano hell for 13 rounds. In the second fight he was blown out in one round.

Jersey Joe Walcott
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[DiegoFuego]

Point is wins over an out of prime Walcott, Charles and Louis do not compare to winning titles in 5 weight classes. Not even close.

[COACH WEBB]

If Floyd were to stay retired, he and Marciano would be 2 of a very short list of boxers who retired undefeated. Who do you think had the better legacy, and accomplished more throughout thier careers?

wow..the poll is 50/50 ..

[Mike Tyson77]

Marciano fought absolutely no prime fighters in his career

And Floyd ducked Pac and Margo,cotto. Marciano is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY greater than gayweather.

[revs1227]

although i expect marciano to win the poll due to nostalgia and the fact that certain posters may have an agenda against a fighter like mayweather and (certain fanboyism over a fighter like marciano), it is clear to me that mayweather is p4p the better, more skilled fighter, his 6 titles in 5 weight divisions and his better resume also adds onto the fact that he has the better legacy imo

what are u ****ing kidding ?????
Marciano fanboyism? Ahhahahahah
mayweather has the largest ****sexual following in the united states

[BattlingNelson]

How did he grow into 147? The kid weighed 149 by fight-time while everybody else was about +9 pounds over that. If anything, 149 is the usual fight-time weight of a JrWW; it's Ricky Hatton's weight for example...or better yet, Pac's weight of 147 by fight time when he fought at 135 (division) was closer to Floyd than what Margarito was by fight-time.

The big thing I had against Mayweather at 147 was that he said he was the best at 147, then ripped the likes of SRR and SRL, yet he was the one that didn't fight the best in the division (147) that he said he was the best at.

But, we can say why he moved up to the bigger weight division: O$car. Just like Pac who never had any intention to fight the best at 147 but would fight a past prime Oscar; Floyd did the same except Floyd had to fight Oscar at a healthier weight of 154.

Are you implying that Floyd is still a junior WW?

[larryx]

mayweather..he went thru 5 divisions

[bsrizpac]

what are u ****ing kidding ?????
Marciano fanboyism? Ahhahahahah
mayweather has the largest ****sexual following in the united states

It's balanced out by your hatton ****sucking.

[HappyBoxingFan]

The results of this poll has really put the level of idiocy on this site into a proper perspective.

[BattlingNelson]

What do you mean he grew into a WW??? What is the meaning of natural weight to you?? Mayweather weighs 148 at WW. Pacman at 135 fight night is 147 and at 147 fight night he is 148. Did Pacman grow into a WW??

I suppose then that you think it would be reasonable to make a Floyd vs. Pac at 140 then.

For the record Mikkel Kessler fights at 168 lbs. Come fight night he usually weighs around170.