Who Deserves Respect: Hatton/Calzaghe

[S A M U R A I]

You know you're right. Whenever the greats are mentioned Sven Ottke is in the first sentence.

Look, whatever. My point is that Marciano is remembered for things other than his record. He has stories.

But you do make a good point. Calzaghe will, fairly or unfairly, be considered in the Sven Ottke ilk rather than with Marciano.

Sven Ottke hasn't even got an impressive number of wins.

Joe is 46-0, with the possibility of increasing that number.

Ottke is 34-0, and is highly unlikely to ever fight again.

Not very impressive for Ottke. If we can get into small details, though (which the casual fan won't), Ottke has almost 50 losses as an amateur. Calzaghe, on the other hand, won 3 ABA titles in 3 different weights for 3 years straight. Beating Calzaghe, even as an amateur was a BIG DEAL, just as it is now. The difference between Calzaghe and Ottke is staggering.

But anyway... seeing as Calzaghe is one of the most hated people on here, the poll will swing Hatton's way.



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[medium-deek]

Joe deserves more respect, because he takes good care of himself.

With Hatton's weight gains and losses from beer and junk food, he'll be shot long before he's Joe's age.

When Hatton retires, he will end up looking like a fat pimp like honeyghan

http://static.richardyoungonline.com/photos/14299_large.jpg

[-Swizzy-]

hatton.

he had to beat kostya tszyu to get his title. a lineal belt to go along with the org belt.

joe fought for a vacant belt for an upstart , not yet major org. the wbo was considered a minor belt for most of the time he was champ.

ricky fought another champion in his next fight.

joe didn't fight another beltholder for 9 years.

ricky jumped up to a higher division to challenge another champ soon afterwards.

it took joe what 'til he was 36? 37?

ricky fought the #1 p4p fighter in the world and is gonna fight another #1 p4p fighter next year.

joe could have done that but he didn't.

ricky > joe

......nuff said. this post is spot on.

[S A M U R A I]

When Hatton retires, he will end up looking like a fat pimp like honeyghan

http://static.richardyoungonline.com...4299_large.jpg

LOL. Poor old Lloyd. He's a huge Calzaghe fan, btw.



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[Benny Leonard]

Now.

If you're a kid and you go ask your grandfather, he'll know. Your daddy might too but young fans wont know much about Joe Louis at all.

I'm sorry, he was a great fighter (possibly the best heavyweight ever) but he doesn't have the fame Ali does.

Fame fades with time.

Ali will be forgotten eventually as well after he dies. How long after, not sure. He has a better chance to stay longer because of his Global appeal because of TV.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

respect for both



but 20 years from now, my hatton stories will be more positive than my calzaghe stories...but that's just me

[S A M U R A I]

......nuff said. this post is spot on.

To you, maybe it is, you're a Calzaghe hater, but the casual fan won't know **** about any of that stuff.



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[-Swizzy-]

To you, maybe it is, you're a Calzaghe hater, but the casual fan won't know **** about any of that stuff.

I am in fact not a calzaghe hater. just because I speak the truth I become a hater all of a sudden? I see myself as more of a realist than anything.

[S A M U R A I]

I am in fact not a calzaghe hater. just because I speak the truth I become a hater all of a sudden? I see myself as more of a realist than anything.

My bad. I could have sworn I've seen you make disrespectful posts.



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LOL. Poor old Lloyd. He's a huge Calzaghe fan, btw.

You should see him on Sky Sports. He is always wearing his fluffy hat and coat. No one dares say anything because he is a former boxer and no doubt can still throw a punch, but when he is gone, they must have a good giggle.

I'm sure he is a nice guy at heart, but Jesus, the outfits.........check it out here:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=b755E5tDsis