Sameday weigh in's and Margarito. Why you are wrong!!!!

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1. "In January 2006, the State of California commissioned a study to investigate the relationship between rapid weight reduction and serious ring injury. [EN13] Although one wishes the California researchers well, the data suggest that death rates calculated by weight follow the same Bell curve that one would expect for male athletes grouped by weight"





In otherwords the death of a boxer because of weight reduction is no more likely than anyother sport where people are grouped together by weight. Same day weigh in's were outlawed in the early 80's so this just proves that Day before weigh in's have made boxing safer.


Also in table 10 of #5 "cause of death" shows that in 1996 only 2% of the deaths that occured were caused by weight reduction.


As you can see even your own so called proof suggests that day before weigh in's make boxing safer for the fighters.

I didn't say I had proof to the contrary.. only that you reported it like a 5 year old repeating what the news told him..

I was simply helping you sound less a ******.. I didn't need facts.. YOU DID...

[CottoIsBackBtch]

Fighters should fight based on what they weigh on fight night. Not that dehydrated shyt the pull at weigh-ins. Fight night both fighters must be withing 5lbs of one another max.

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Fighters should fight based on what they weigh on fight night. Not that dehydrated shyt the pull at weigh-ins. Fight night both fighters must be withing 5lbs of one another max.

So you are ok with them dying in the ring?

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I didn't say I had proof to the contrary.. only that you reported it like a 5 year old repeating what the news told him..

I was simply helping you sound less a ******.. I didn't need facts.. YOU DID...

I thought it was common sense that during the Golden age of boxing a lot of fighters were dying in the ring from head injuries brought on by dehydration. Was I giving people way to much credit?

Plus it wasn't like statistics supporting the contrary were being posted left and right so I saw no need.

[JAB5239]

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Who has to work harder to make weight the bigger guy or the smaller guy? The bigger guy of coarse.


Even if the bigger guy makes weight without trouble who is most likely to have more in the tank come fight time? The smaller guy.



This is where the playing field evens out!

The playing field is evened out thru weight classes. If this were not the case there wouldn't be any.

[JAB5239]

I understand that but the health problems it caused out weighed eveything else so they changed it. Deal with it and stop making excuses.


Also whats stopping these smaller fighters to go down a weight class themselves if they feel some fighter areto big.

Pure ignorance.

[JAB5239]

So you are ok with them dying in the ring?

Nobody is forcing them to drain themselves. If they can't comfotably make the weight, they don't belong in that division. Simple as that.

[Benny Leonard]

So you are ok with them dying in the ring?

It's on them.

They die anyway even when they are "healthy."

We've seen fighters come into fights drained even today.

[Benny Leonard]

I thought it was common sense that during the Golden age of boxing a lot of fighters were dying in the ring from head injuries brought on by dehydration. Was I giving people way to much credit?

Plus it wasn't like statistics supporting the contrary were being posted left and right so I saw no need.

There may be a lot to it than that.

First, look at how many times they fought. Then, look at possible Concussions these fighters probably suffered and were allowed to fight on either because the rules didn't protect them or, they just didn't know they had it because they didn't see a Doctor.
I wouldn't be surprised if fighters suffered the "bleeding on the brain" problem we hear fighters of today are barred from fighting for.

Then you have the possibility that fighters that needed money so bad because of the paychecks weren't big that they would go into fights in conditions that made Amy Winehouse look healthy.

So much to think about.

[-Swizzy-]

Let's go back 20 years and analyze what happened in boxing when we had Sameday weigh in's. DEATH!!!!!!!

Fighters fought and died in that ring because they were so dehydrated that their brains pretty much turned into mush. Wouldn't you rather have someone beat Margarito with skill and not on a technacality? And doesn't that shoot down any argument that Margarito haters make with P. Williams since he is(shock) bigger than Maragarito. Seriously if you hate Margarito that much that you would implement a rule that would cause many boxers to die then you make me wanna vomit. Margarito can fight at 147 even at his size for 1 reason. Genetics! His bodies ability to stay at 147 and his chin were all things he was born with. See thats what makes a great fighter! His natural dominance over other fighter.

Please share your comments and please if you can't form a sophisticated argument against this don't post in this thread at all.

simple logic: fighters should not be fighting in a weight class that they have to dehydrate and/or starve themselves to make weight for. so this is not a good reason for same day weigh-ins not to be implemented.