Sameday weigh in's and Margarito. Why you are wrong!!!!

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    #171
    Originally posted by pistol whip
    Neither it's what the fighter weighs at the weigh in because that is their "official weight".

    So it ok, to fight for the 175lb title weighing 201 in your opinioln? Its ok to fight for the 135 title weighing in at 157? What the hel;l do we need weight classes for anyway, right? Moron.

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      #172
      Originally posted by pistol whip
      No I actually pointed out that a fighter who went on and on that he lost because of weight was a ****ing fraud himself and what it proved is that he lost because the other fighter had greater skill not because of weight advantages.

      This was the one and only real example of a fighter complaining about a weight advantage and what happened? He shot it to **** himself which continues to further my point.
      Yup. You just keep twising in the wind, boy.

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        #173
        Originally posted by JAB5239

        So it ok, to fight for the 175lb title weighing 201 in your opinioln? Its ok to fight for the 135 title weighing in at 157? What the hel;l do we need weight classes for anyway, right? Moron.

        yeah if the fighters your fighting are rehydrating to the same weight which seems to be the case for the person who instigated this whole thread. Antonio Margarito!!!!

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          #174
          Originally posted by JAB5239
          Yup. You just keep twising in the wind, boy.
          Big words for someone who has yet to make one valid point that is anything beyond your own personal opinion.

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            #175
            Originally posted by pistol whip
            yeah if the fighters your fighting are rehydrating to the same weight which seems to be the case for the person who instigated this whole thread. Antonio Margarito!!!!
            Then what the **** are weight divisions for to begin with? Im sorry, is it only me that didn't realize they were being used as a guide line and not a standard? Christ!!

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              #176
              Originally posted by pistol whip
              yeah if the fighters your fighting are rehydrating to the same weight which seems to be the case for the person who instigated this whole thread. Antonio Margarito!!!!

              If you are suppose to be a 147 pound fighter you should not be rehydrating to 165 pounds..., Correct????

              This tells me that Fighters are not just replenishing water but actually gaining weight.

              Thats why Holding the weigh-in on the day of the fight, as Pennsylvania does, encourages fighters to make weight in the proper way.

              The reason that weight classes exist at all is to ensure a fair fight. Fair and safe competition begins with the requirement that the two men facing each other are the same size.

              What ever happened to rules?

              If too Fighters suppose to Natural 147 pounders and If a fight is contracted for 147-pounds and a fighter shows up 170 then the fighter has breeched the contract.

              Without rules, where's the legitimacy?

              If an athlete is well-conditioned, the timing of the weigh-in shouldn’t matter,The primary objective of having 17 weight classes in this sport should be to determine the best fighters within specific intervals of weight.

              130 pounders fighting 130 pounders
              140 pounders fighting 140 pounders
              147 pounders fighting 147 pounders

              Not 130 pounders fighting 150 pounders
              Not 140 pounders fighting 160 pounders
              Not 147 pounders fighting 170 pounders

              if A Fighter weighs 165 lbs. on fight night, then how can we call him the 147 lb. champion ?

              Without rules, where's the legitimacy?

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                #177
                Originally posted by pistol whip
                Big words for someone who has yet to make one valid point that is anything beyond your own personal opinion.
                Im sorry, did the Gatti-Gamache facts escape you? and I am still waiting on those "thousands" of names you talked about yet still haven't produced. Oh, thats right, you don't feel like it.

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by JAB5239
                  Then what the **** are weight divisions for to begin with? Im sorry, is it only me that didn't realize they were being used as a guide line and not a standard? Christ!!

                  The rule is inperfect that I will agree with you on but it's the best way to keep fighters as close to weight as possiable without having them die trying to make weight.

                  The point that I'm making is that Tony's opponents weigh 147 or lower just like him the day before the fight. Then they rehydrate to 165 plus the following day and they still weigh the same ammount on the day of the fight.

                  So where is the weight advantage? Unless you wanna use another fighter as an example because I'm drawing dead with that?

                  The fact is it's doing a better job keeping fighters even in weight even if they do gain 15 pounds the day after.

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                    #179
                    Originally posted by JAB5239
                    Im sorry, did the Gatti-Gamache facts escape you? :
                    Oh so Gamache fighting and knocking out Junior middleweights isn't disproving your point when Gatti was fighting at 140 pounds???

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by Horus

                      If you are suppose to be a 147 pound fighter you should not be rehydrating to 165 pounds..., Correct????

                      This tells me that Fighters are not just replenishing water but actually gaining weight.

                      Thats why Holding the weigh-in on the day of the fight, as Pennsylvania does, encourages fighters to make weight in the proper way.

                      The reason that weight classes exist at all is to ensure a fair fight. Fair and safe competition begins with the requirement that the two men facing each other are the same size.

                      What ever happened to rules?

                      If too Fighters suppose to Natural 147 pounders and If a fight is contracted for 147-pounds and a fighter shows up 170 then the fighter has breeched the contract.

                      Without rules, where's the legitimacy?

                      If an athlete is well-conditioned, the timing of the weigh-in shouldn’t matter,The primary objective of having 17 weight classes in this sport should be to determine the best fighters within specific intervals of weight.

                      130 pounders fighting 130 pounders
                      140 pounders fighting 140 pounders
                      147 pounders fighting 147 pounders

                      Not 130 pounders fighting 150 pounders
                      Not 140 pounders fighting 160 pounders
                      Not 147 pounders fighting 170 pounders

                      if A Fighter weighs 165 lbs. on fight night, then how can we call him the 147 lb. champion ?

                      Without rules, where's the legitimacy?

                      Didn't I just own the **** out of you in a diffrent thread? Why are you even commenting any further??

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