Sameday weigh in's and Margarito. Why you are wrong!!!!

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What is the point of saying you are a WW fighter when you are a middleweight fighter come fight night

Does it really matter? He makes the weight no problem and does it thru hardwork and discipline. I said it before but if a guy his size can put in he work thats required to stay at 147 the he deserves the advantage. He earned it and keep in mind the smaller welters don't have to go thru any of the things Tony has to go thru to make 147.

Lets call your statement what it is. A ****ing excuse!!!!

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Does it really matter? He makes the weight no problem and does it thru hardwork and discipline. I said it before but if a guy his size can put in he work thats required to stay at 147 the he deserves the advantage. He earned it and keep in mind the smaller welters don't have to go thru any of the things Tony has to go thru to make 147.

Lets call your statement what it is. A ****ing excuse!!!!

Really. The point of weight classes were to make the playing field even. Lets say Mayweather fought Margarito. Fight night Mayweather is 149 and Margarito is 162. That is 13 pounds difference.

That is a WW fighting a MW. The purpose of weight classes were for people to be fighting people same weight but having a 13 pounds advantage

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How does it even out. Come fight night they rehydrate and they are all good with their 15 pounds advantage

If you think a day of food and water makes up completely for 6-8 weeks of training then you are ******ed. Again it requires more effort for the bigger fighter to make the weight
so if he can do it without draininghis body then again he earned the advantage.


Also if bigger fighters are coming into fights weight drained where is the advantage???

[Flawless.]

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If you think a day of food and water makes up completely for 6-8 weeks of training then you are ******ed. Again it requires more effort for the bigger fighter to make the weight
so if he can do it without draininghis body then again he earned the advantage.


Also if bigger fighters are coming into fights weight drained where is the advantage???

How do they come in weight drain when they rehydrate back to over 160.

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Really. The point of weight classes were to make the playing field even. Lets say Mayweather fought Margarito. Fight night Mayweather is 149 and Margarito is 162. That is 13 pounds difference.

That is a WW fighting a MW. The purpose of weight classes were for people to be fighting people same weight but having a 13 pounds advantage

I understand that but the health problems it caused out weighed eveything else so they changed it. Deal with it and stop making excuses.


Also whats stopping these smaller fighters to go down a weight class themselves if they feel some fighter areto big.

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How do they come in weight drain when they rehydrate back to over 160.

They exhurted themselves harder over 2months of training? Weight mass does not equal that all the correct nutriens and fluids are in your body.

[Welter_Skelter]

Let's go back 20 years and analyze what happened in boxing when we had Sameday weigh in's. DEATH!!!!!!!

Fighters fought and died in that ring because they were so dehydrated that their brains pretty much turned into mush. Wouldn't you rather have someone beat Margarito with skill and not on a technacality? And doesn't that shoot down any argument that Margarito haters make with P. Williams since he is(shock) bigger than Maragarito. Seriously if you hate Margarito that much that you would implement a rule that would cause many boxers to die then you make me wanna vomit. Margarito can fight at 147 even at his size for 1 reason. Genetics! His bodies ability to stay at 147 and his chin were all things he was born with. See thats what makes a great fighter! His natural dominance over other fighter.

Please share your comments and please if you can't form a sophisticated argument against this don't post in this thread at all.

Before you start spouting off Old wives tales.. and passing them for facts.. You really ought to know what heck you are talking about...

You are an idiot at this point.. read this and educate yourself..

http://ejmas.com/jcs/jcsart_svinth_a_0700.htm

[DarchinyFAN]

Yeah because money has nothing to do with anything. Seriously do you think that every weight division is lucrative for fighters? When it comes to Millions of dollars it's not gonna stop anything just like it didn't stop fighters in the 60's 70's ad early 80's who died in the ring.


Logic my friend!!! You should try using it!!!

Once again its the fighters fault. They are taking a risk reward type deal.

There is money in robbing banks too, but we don't do it, because of the risk.

If a fighter is going to risk their health on a bigger payday, then yes it is their fault.

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Before you start spouting off Old wives tales.. and passing them for facts.. You really ought to know what heck you are talking about...

You are an idiot at this point.. read this and educate yourself..

http://ejmas.com/jcs/jcsart_svinth_a_0700.htm

1. "In January 2006, the State of California commissioned a study to investigate the relationship between rapid weight reduction and serious ring injury. [EN13] Although one wishes the California researchers well, the data suggest that death rates calculated by weight follow the same Bell curve that one would expect for male athletes grouped by weight"





In otherwords the death of a boxer because of weight reduction is no more likely than anyother sport where people are grouped together by weight. Same day weigh in's were outlawed in the early 80's so this just proves that Day before weigh in's have made boxing safer.


Also in table 10 of #5 "cause of death" shows that in 1996 only 2% of the deaths that occured were caused by weight reduction.


As you can see even your own so called proof suggests that day before weigh in's make boxing safer for the fighters.

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Once again its the fighters fault. They are taking a risk reward type deal.

There is money in robbing banks too, but we don't do it, because of the risk.

If a fighter is going to risk their health on a bigger payday, then yes it is their fault.

Here is where your wrong. Boxers risk their lives in the ring even if they arn't weight drained. So lets say fighters only fight at a so called safe weight and don't try to fight in smaller divisions. A lot of fighters will get frozen out of big paydays and at the same time will still risk their lives. In some cases they will even still die.

Say it's unfair all you want but making it harder and more dangerous for a man to earn a living at his trade because a fighter you don't like has a slight weight advantage is absurd.

The smaller fighter doesn't have to take the fight either you know. So by your logic if a smaller fighter gets in the ring with a so called bigger fighter it's also the smaller fighters fault if he gets hurt right???