Mayweather Has Flaws, Pacquiao Wants Him: Says Roach

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  • Sinisterevo
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    #231
    Mayweather is clearly the better fighter all around defense and offense, but he has been inactive for a long while now and Pac has been busy. So that helps even things out. This would be a great fight but there shouldn't be any best of all time talk. both fighters have avoided the best of their respective divisions.

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    • Benny Leonard
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      #232
      Originally posted by KabukiJoe
      ...it's funny how people only quote Freddie when it suits their purpose...


      Kabuki Joe
      Look through my posts before the fight: I said Oscar could show up flat because of the weight...as well as his age, inactivity, and injured shoulder; it's why I brought up Tszyu vs. Hatton.

      I didn't figure it would be that bad...but given the history of the sport with Roy and Byrd and many others...I'll make sure to keep it in front.


      I didn't figure he would actually be fighting at 147 by fight time after weigh-in at 145. He showed his 147 weight on 24/7 but I figured he dried out for the cameras for that day to help sell the fight...I just thought it was odd; nothing more. We learn from our mistakes. It's just hard being on the outside looking in to determine what exactly is taking place. It's why we can gather details after the fact when everything starts to come out and understand why. But during, few no what is going on because they keep it hush hush.
      Last edited by Benny Leonard; 12-15-2008, 10:46 AM.

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      • Pullcounter
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        #233
        Originally posted by Benny Leonard
        Look through my posts before the fight: I said Oscar could show up flat because of the weight...as well as his age, inactivity, and injured shoulder; it's why I brought up Tszyu vs. Hatton.

        I didn't figure it would be that bad...but given the history of the sport with Roy and Byrd and many others...I'll make sure to keep it in front.
        yeah, but u got to realize that dlh wanted to fight at 147

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        • Benny Leonard
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          #234
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          yeah, but u got to realize that dlh wanted to fight at 147
          I think it's the only way Freddie would have allowed Manny to fight Oscar and probably from Oscar's side; in his mind, the only way to sell a fight.


          Oscar got what he deserved; no question about that.

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            #235
            Originally posted by Benny Leonard
            I think it's the only way Freddie would have allowed Manny to fight Oscar and probably from Oscar's side; in his mind, the only way to sell a fight.


            Oscar got what he deserved; no question about that.
            nah, dlh was coming down to 147 for a fight w/ hatton to... it wasn't all on roach. DLH wanted to be at 147 for both pac and hatton.

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            • dino
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              #236
              the fighter that beats MAYWEATHER is going to have to be a bigger, stronger man like williams or margarito, not Pacquaio

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              • Benny Leonard
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                #237
                Originally posted by Pullcounter
                nah, dlh was coming down to 147 for a fight w/ hatton to... it wasn't all on roach. DLH wanted to be at 147 for both pac and hatton.
                The same was for Hatton. I'm not blaming this all on Roach; he just saw the opportunity and took it. Oscar was the fool for doing it.

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                  #238
                  Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                  The same was for Hatton. I'm not blaming this all on Roach; he just saw the opportunity and took it. Oscar was the fool for doing it.
                  Have you watch the fight? the movement of pacquiao is the reason why de la hoya cant explode... DLH cant corner pacquiao unlike floyd... When DLH fight PBF you can see that the movement of PBF is not as fast as Pacquiao... The head movement+foot work made de la hoya miss pacquiao that is the reason why he wasnt able to hurt pacquiao... DLH cant even hit pacquiao's head that is the reason why DLH targeted pac body... Unfortunately, pac can handle DLH punches and even exhcanges punches with DLH...

                  But of course you have your own opinion... I hope pac fight hatton first before floyd...

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                    #239
                    Originally posted by Carlisle
                    People get caught up in the media hype but both DLH and Hatton gave Mayweather all he could handle. Pac is on a whole different level. Pac has skills (offense and defense) speed, power, stamina and heart. He's a lot better than DLH and Hatton and he's no Castillo (who gave Floyd fits)... Pac would wreck Mayweather.
                    I agree with you somehow... But i think if floyd will be 100% as if he was before then it would be one hell of a fight if they clash...

                    Hatton will be destroyed in the same manner as David Diaz was annihilated... Hatton is also an easy target for pacquiao...

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                      #240
                      Originally posted by Brandish
                      freddy knows what he is doing a hatton fight will probably get manny 3-4 mill guaranteed and the ppv will do modestly well in the states. the hatton fight is bigger if manny can beat floyd. right now the avg british box fan doesn't know who manny is.

                      the biggest money fight for pac and one that might get him 6-8 million guanteed is the floyd fight. ppvs would avg over 1.5 millioon for a fight like this, gate would be probably surpass hoya vs mayweather.

                      all the money is with a floyd fight and freddy realizes this.

                      I wouldn't pay to see many beat hatton or lose to hatton (which is a real possibility) [I] would pay to see floyd vs manny for p4p supremacy
                      After seeing what manny did to Oscar last wee and the manner in whcih he did it i honestly could see him beating Floyd to the unch. If Floyd is going to jump right backin the ring with manny rathe then a warm up contest with a less than dangerous fighter I would give manny much better chance to beat Floyd. Hatton will eat punches from pacman all night but it may be an exiciting brawl....Lefty

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