Consensus Says Beristain Likely Over-Trained De La Hoya

[mrlopez]

The consensus among several observers in the sport is that Nacho Beristain likely overdid the training regimen for Oscar De La Hoya, leading to the Golden Boy's demise against Manny Pacquiao in Las Vegas this past Saturday. [details]

De La Puta hired him, its his fault....

sure seems like it, oscar is not shot... its a little more complicated than that

Oscam is shot, needs to retire, did wonders for the sport, time to pass the torch

It's possible, but it sucks to hear Pac's shine bein blocked by **** like this. He should still get full cred for whoopin that ass.

^^^True dat

[bestboxingonly]

If you dont hate him that much, why shoud you throw ODLH again to the lion as prey????!!!

Because the subject here states that Oscars defeat was caused by "Over-Training" and that made him look bad. So therefore a proper training should be a solution and we'll have a 2nd fight to clear any doubts.

[RisAri0]

if Oscar weighed in 154+ the outcome would've still been the same, just stopped later..

[theggamme209]

Overtrain, YEAH RIGHT!! Oscar made himself look bad, and manny look great so when he promote's the fight hatton vs. pacquaio he will make even more money! He didn't want to beat manny. It makes no business sense.

[billionaire]

Bingo! it took 4 pages for someone to say this

if anyone is to blame other than Oscar or Manny for submitting the beatdown it's Oscar's nutrionist Rob Garcia. He is the one who has to monitor what Oscar intakes, what he needs to do to target his weight properly, whatever exercises he thinks will keep him in optimal shape. Remember it was Rob in there with Oscar doing the sprints doing the calesthenics giving him wheat germ sea kelp and spinach balls not Nacho. Nacho was there as the gameplan specialist not to make sure Oscar makes weight.

all those weird backshelf supplements like sea kelp and **** is overatted...if you gotta be that dramatic you shouldnt be boxing....i think when floyd mayweather sr insults oscars strength coaches hes really getting at rob garcia.....that said manny beat his ass fair and squire

[brently1979]

if Oscar weighed in 154+ the outcome would've still been the same, just stopped later..

I actually agree with that. He still wouldn't have been able to tag Pac with anything, Pac would have just outboxed him and stuck to the game plan.

[Eaner0919]

I actually think Oscar would look strong enough to finish on his feet but yeah Manny would have won regardless

[MindBat]

First off, can't take anything away from Manny. He did his thing and looked awesome.

And though Oscar was a little older and on the decline, he was much more active against Forbes despite supposedly having a torn rotator cuff going into the Forbe's fight. He also had Floyd Sr. in his corner.

Even though he may have been on his way to losing anyway against Pac, his performance was most likely due to a combo of weakness and shoulder pain.
In fact, I think Oscar may have felt he wasn't 100% before jumping in the ring, and knew the outcome, but opted to go on without excuses understandably.

Now -- a better indicator of Manny's performance not being a fluke, is to note how well he performs in his next few fights compared to the blowout he laid on Oscar.

[Pullcounter]

there's definitely gonna be a dlh/pac II now... when pac whups his ass again, what's gonna be the excuse.... oh yeah, he's shot... LOL

[-MAKAVELLI-]

there's definitely gonna be a dlh/pac II now... when pac whups his ass again, what's gonna be the excuse.... oh yeah, he's shot... LOL

he'll come in at 160 on fight night...look slower than last saturday and get tagged more