Anyone actually want Oscar to win?

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  • IMDAZED
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    #31
    Originally posted by chicano79us
    It counted for Trinidad(Whitaker), it counted for Zoo(Chavez). Why not Oscar???

    Who in this generation has made more $$$$$$$, PPVs, Resume, fans than Oscar???
    Trinidad is not considered an ATG because he beat Whitaker. What are you talking about? And Tszyu isn't considered an ATG period. Besides, two wrongs don't make a right.

    As for your second statement, money, PPV and fans don't make you an ATG. Resume does. And the onus is on YOU to prove he has an ATG resume.

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      #32
      Originally posted by chicano79us
      It counted for Trinidad(Whitaker), it counted for Zoo(Chavez). Why not Oscar???

      Who in this generation has made more $$$$$$$, PPVs, Resume, fans than Oscar???
      This is what I think bridges the gap for Oscar. He's got some very good wins and has fought a lot of tough guys and there will always be those who will question his record. You can make that argument for just about anyone. What takes him to ATG status is the impact he's had on the sport. I guarantee the next generation of young Mexican fighters coming up will have him somewhere on their list of favorites or inspirations.

      That being said, I wish he would go away, he's screwing up a lot of potentially great fights.

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        #33
        Originally posted by TEXSTRO
        Then going by his resume what is he to you???
        Very good fighter, a HOF'er. But ATG? Hell nah.

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          #34
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Trinidad is not considered an ATG because he beat Whitaker. What are you talking about? And Tszyu isn't considered an ATG period. Besides, two wrongs don't make a right.

          As for your second statement, money, PPV and fans don't make you an ATG. Resume does. And the onus is on YOU to prove he has an ATG resume.
          Trinidad is considered great for what he did in his career, just like Oscar dude.

          You're right, resume does.......you never answered my question. Who has a better resume than Oscar in this generation??

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            #35
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            Very good fighter, a HOF'er. But ATG? Hell nah.
            Very good fighter? A very good fighter doesnt become the biggest draw in all boxing.........But to each is own...ATG will always be arguable no matter who it is..but to say he is just a very good fighter is absurd...Gatti was a pretty good fighter,Mallignaggi is a pretty good fighter, Mayorga was a pretty good fighter, **** Goyo Vargas was pretty good fighter....And they are not in the same class as DLH...What does it take to be an ATG....Wait a second do you consider Mayweather an ATG?

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              #36
              Originally posted by chicano79us
              Trinidad is considered great for what he did in his career, just like Oscar dude.

              You're right, resume does.......you never answered my question. Who has a better resume than Oscar in this generation??
              I never said Oscar was an ATG. The onus is on YOU to tell me how he is

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                #37
                Originally posted by TEXSTRO
                Very good fighter? A very good fighter doesnt become the biggest draw in all boxing.........But to each is own...ATG will always be arguable no matter who it is..but to say he is just a very good fighter is absurd...Gatti was a pretty good fighter,Mallignaggi is a pretty good fighter, Mayorga was a pretty good fighter, **** Goyo Vargas was pretty good fighter....And they are not in the same class as DLH...What does it take to be an ATG....Wait a second do you consider Mayweather an ATG?
                Yeah, a lot of times being a draw has nothing to do with fighting.

                But stop trying to draw me into some weird Oscar vs. Floyd debate so you can cast me. Who has Oscar beaten that makes you say he's an ATG? WHO?

                Who is his best win? I would argue Ike Quartey or Fernando Vargas. That's ATG status? Not in my book.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Yeah, a lot of times being a draw has nothing to do with fighting.

                  But stop trying to draw me into some weird Oscar vs. Floyd debate so you can cast me. Who has Oscar beaten that makes you say he's an ATG? WHO?

                  Who is his best win? I would argue Ike Quartey or Fernando Vargas. That's ATG status? Not in my book.



                  and undersized, over-the-hill JCC and a cracked out pernell has to count for something dude

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                  • Mr. Fantastic
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    I never said Oscar was an ATG. The onus is on YOU to tell me how he is
                    Keep avoiding my question.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bob Anomaly
                      Why would anyone want him to win?
                      There's lots of kats that want DLH to win...Im one of them...my main reason is that im tired of The Pacman kicking the crap out of all my fav mex fighters...no disrespect to The Pac cuz he has earned it and he is legit! but I want to see a mex take it to him for once...

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