It's official, UFC is a JOKE. Lesnar wins UFC heavyweight title.

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  • Underdog82
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    #51
    Originally posted by Sin City
    I never said a welter could defeat Lesnar did I? You need to learn to read.
    I said no WWE fighter could come into our sport in their given weight class and beat the top champions with/ or without an amateur boxing background and 3 professional fights.
    Ok, I also agree with that 100%. But from your post, you threw out Lesnars name and implied that the likes of Cotto, mayweather etc could take him.

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    • Sin City
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      #52
      Originally posted by FutureGoldenBoy
      Anderson Silva was 1-1 in boxing.......
      and his only win was against a guy making his pro debut... who ONLY fought that one time.
      How does that mean Silva could beat the top champs? lol

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      • deanrw
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        #53
        Originally posted by FutureGoldenBoy
        Anderson Silva was 1-1 in boxing.......
        Ahh. I thought he was 0 for 2. Thanks for the heads up.

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        • Mr. Fantastic
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          #54
          Originally posted by Sin City
          we aren't.. I ain't at all but you have idiots come on here talking about how our sport is dying and how our sport sucks so much and how MMA is better and you really think we are just going to sit here and take that ****? gitdafuck outta here.

          If anyone seems threatened it's the MMA guys who constantly bring up ****** **** about how they think our sport is dying.
          Anyway, you or they want to defend that ***** ass sport and talk **** about boxing.. go fuck off to sherdog.
          You call it a ***** ass sport but yet they get knocked out like boxers do. They take big risk too. You don't think Boxing people go into MMA forums and talk **** about MMA??

          Do you see me saying boxing is dying? If not, then don't fucking accuse me of bull**** kid.

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          • Gareth Ivanovic
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            #55
            Im not an MMA fan and watch Boxing over MMA anytime even if it's some small fight, but with Lesnar I think people are looking too much into his WWE career and think that's all he was. He went to one of the premier college wrestling programs in the country (Minnesota) and was runner up his junior year and champion his senior year. A wrestling background fits great for MMA. Wrestling is about taking your opponent down and controlling them and in MMA if your able to do that it's a tremendous advantage. So it doesn't really suprise me that he's succeeded because you can look at quite a few of successful MMA fighters and many have wrestling backgrounds. Could somebody come into boxing after 3 fights and do what Lesnar did of course not. It's a joke more because he got a championship fight for not doing much.

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            • Danny Gunz
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              #56
              boxing is less popular than UFC right now and thats a fact

              Ill always love boxing more then UFC but you guys are in denial right now, just cause you dont like it doesnt mean its not doing well

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              • Golden Boy 360
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                #57
                Originally posted by Sin City
                and his only win was against a guy making his pro debut... who ONLY fought that one time.
                How does that mean Silva could beat the top champs? lol
                yeah...
                but i respect anderson silva and fedor...they seem like the most consistent fighters..........randy couture is 16-9 with losses to no names

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                • Mr. Fantastic
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by boxer Q21
                  Ill always love boxing more then UFC but you guys are in denial right now, just cause you dont like it doesnt mean its not doing well

                  Exactly how I feel man. Good post.

                  Eventhough its like comparing apples to oranges, there is still competition involved. Us fight fans are the ones that get benefit from it cause it makes both boxing and MMA put on better fights.
                  Last edited by Mr. Fantastic; 11-16-2008, 02:08 AM.

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                  • Sin City
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by chicano79us
                    You call it a ***** ass sport but yet they get knocked out like boxers do. They take big risk too. You don't think Boxing people go into MMA forums and talk **** about MMA??

                    Do you see me saying boxing is dying? If not, then don't fucking accuse me of bull**** kid.
                    My view is thanks to the hostility, boxing and UFC can't coexist.
                    So if you want to watch UFC fine.. go join Sherdog.
                    You can't be on the fence about that **** though cus it's one or the other.
                    I'm on boxingscene for a reason.. because I'll take boxing over MMA anyday.

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                    • sunthunder
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                      #60
                      People still need to realise that the fact Brock was a pro wrestler means nothing. The level he achieved in amature wrestling and his pure size/athleticism mean everything.

                      Wrestling is a huge part of MMA. Lesnar can basically choose where a fight takes place. If he fights a top striker, he can put them on their back and if he fights a top submission artist, they can't take him down. The majority of MMA fights are decided upon who can keep the fight in the realm of their choosing. No one in MMA is better equipped to choose what kind of fight he gets into than Lesnar.

                      Kazushi Sakuraba is widely considered one of the greatest of all time in MMA, he was a pro wrestler, but it was his amature wrestling credentials again which led him to success, being a top 3 All-Japan wrestler.

                      No man could go into boxing with no background and defeat champions, true. But in boxing, you can only box. In MMA, a fight is whatever you want it to be, if you have the ability to back up that choice. If you have one dimension of your game that means you can dominate everyone else with just that, then that's fair, it doesn't make you any less of a fighter. Likewise if you have freak athletic ability.

                      Lesnar is still not the best heavyweight in the world. The majority of the top heavyweights in MMA reside outside the UFC, and I still think he'll lose again to Mir or Nogueira.

                      But seriously, Lesnar being in the WWE means nothing. It's a complete miss-representation of his skills as a fighter. You're using his pro-wrestling background as a buzz term to discredit him. If you want to properly represent what happened tonight, you'd say:

                      275lb 2 time NCAA heavyweight champion - Brock Lesnar - wins UFC heavyweight title.

                      That is a fair representation, and in no way a blight upon MMA.

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