Ricky Hatton: "Calzaghe vs. Dawson, A Load of Rubbish"

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  • KJB
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    #31
    Originally posted by Underdog82
    Calzaghe would pound Dawson into an easy UD win. He has nothing to gain by actually doing it. Whether he does it or not, the same biased Calzaghe haters will just claim Dawson was a bum and then come up with a new hype to put in front of Joe. Then after Joe beat that new hype, the cycle would repeat again.
    Thats the thing about this situation though, bro: There is nobody else out there, not really. Chad Dawson is and has been a key young player at LHW for a while, and he is coming off of back to back wins over former champions, both guys who hold wins over RJJ. I know Calzaghe is the champ, but Dawson is the real number 1 contender, and he deserved his shot more than RJJ then and still does.
    If Joe takes out Dawson there isnt anything left he can prove.

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    • AC111
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      #32
      hattons not overated. he lost to a truly great fighter. And he hasnt made the most of hes talent. Between fights hes lifestyle is awful, like he goes up 8 weight classes then comes back down each time. Also if youve seen him spar since floyd took over youll notice a big difference already.

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      • AC111
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        #33
        calzaghe- legend. 46-0. hahha

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        • Underdog82
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          #34
          Originally posted by AC111
          hattons not overated. he lost to a truly great fighter. And he hasnt made the most of hes talent. Between fights hes lifestyle is awful, like he goes up 8 weight classes then comes back down each time. Also if youve seen him spar since floyd took over youll notice a big difference already.
          Any links of Hatton sparring recently?

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          • fightingfigs
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            #35
            Prime vs prime? Why are people questioning that? Not even close Jones KOs Calzaghe.

            I expected this outcome, Jones looked exactly like this when he fought Trinidad. Calzaghe still has something left in the tank from not fighting the best boxing has to offer at an early age. War scars run deep

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            • Roger Mellie
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              #36
              Originally posted by Brassangel
              Calzaghe is no longer in his prime either. For a guy who relies on speed, stamina, and volume of punches, it's pretty remarkable that he can do what he does at age 36. Especially against Hopkins, who we all know still has a lot of skill. 8 years ago, a fight between Calzaghe and Jones, or Calzaghe and Hopkins may have been closer, but he's no longer in his prime either, so it's really a poor thing to hold against him.

              I doubt he planned from the beginning to wait until those two were that old before challenging them.

              It's of little interest to him from a monetary, or a legacy standpoint to fight Dawson. The only reason (yes, I am saying "only" as an absolute), people want to see that fight, is because they want to hold something over Calzaghe's legacy as if it's incomplete. They live in the hope that there was always someone out there who could have beaten him, but Joe ducked that fighter. This makes them feel better when they call him a coward, protected, etc.

              When Lennox Lewis fought Tyson and Holyfield, they were way past their primes. Still, people claim Lewis to be the best of that generation, despite the fact that Tyson and Holyfield had a myriad of personal issues that stunted their ability to be what they should have been (especially Tyson). It's fair to say that, given the circumstances, Calzaghe has beaten Jones and Hopkins, the other greats from his own era. He will always have that one-up on them, and should rightfully be considered the best of the latter half of their era. Jones in his prime was probably a top 10 all-time p4p great, but we're talking from 98-now.

              I'm an american, and I was pulling for both Hopkins and Jones, but the fact is, Calzaghe was better on those days, and he should retire with his head held high.
              A very good post.it really saddens me as a boxing fan to see all this hatred and disrespect for Calzaghe and Jones.First lets deal with joe.all a fighter can do is beat who is in front of him,and joe has done that for his entire career,and people say he hasnt fought anybody? thats crazy! Eubank,Reid,woodhall,sheika,brewer,mitchell,lacy,k essler,hopkins and jones to name a few.to suggest these guys are mugs or bums or whatever is **** out of order to them.as boxing fans we should respect anybody with the balls to pull on the gloves and try to make a living in the toughest sport of all,and to quote Roy Jones,"46-0 dont happen by accident".what joe has achieved is extraordinary,and if he is the coward/slapper most of the pork on here say he is,then what does that say about the guys mentioned above?....Now to Jones.I find it incredible that most of the ******er quotes on here go on about him being ktfo by tarver and johnson.It is universally agreed that Jones was never the same after ruiz!of course he wasnt! what he did was amazing going up and beating a guy he gave 3 stone away to,even after bulking up as he did.lets face it he was already into his thirties and that was a hell of a thing to do to your body,just going up,let alone coming down.that these idiots who have never laced on a glove can allow what happened to detract from the years of entertainment and mindblowing skill before that is laughable,sad and a disgrace,and ultimately says more about the idiot making the comment than it does the fighters who have given us such great viewing over the years...So I raise a glass to Roy Jones and Joe Calzaghe,two fighters who would have held their own in anyones era.You deserve everybodys respect.you certainly have mine.

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              • PoetryInMotion
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                #37
                Originally posted by fightingfigs
                Prime vs prime? Why are people questioning that? Not even close Jones KOs Calzaghe.

                I expected this outcome, Jones looked exactly like this when he fought Trinidad. Calzaghe still has something left in the tank from not fighting the best boxing has to offer at an early age. War scars run deep
                Did you switch the heads around in your avitar???

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by mr.crust
                  A very good post.it really saddens me as a boxing fan to see all this hatred and disrespect for Calzaghe and Jones.First lets deal with joe.all a fighter can do is beat who is in front of him,and joe has done that for his entire career,and people say he hasnt fought anybody? thats crazy! Eubank,Reid,woodhall,sheika,brewer,mitchell,lacy,k essler,hopkins and jones to name a few.to suggest these guys are mugs or bums or whatever is **** out of order to them.as boxing fans we should respect anybody with the balls to pull on the gloves and try to make a living in the toughest sport of all,and to quote Roy Jones,"46-0 dont happen by accident".what joe has achieved is extraordinary,and if he is the coward/slapper most of the pork on here say he is,then what does that say about the guys mentioned above?....Now to Jones.I find it incredible that most of the ******er quotes on here go on about him being ktfo by tarver and johnson.It is universally agreed that Jones was never the same after ruiz!of course he wasnt! what he did was amazing going up and beating a guy he gave 3 stone away to,even after bulking up as he did.lets face it he was already into his thirties and that was a hell of a thing to do to your body,just going up,let alone coming down.that these idiots who have never laced on a glove can allow what happened to detract from the years of entertainment and mindblowing skill before that is laughable,sad and a disgrace,and ultimately says more about the idiot making the comment than it does the fighters who have given us such great viewing over the years...So I raise a glass to Roy Jones and Joe Calzaghe,two fighters who would have held their own in anyones era.You deserve everybodys respect.you certainly have mine.
                  good post, green k if I can.

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                  • Underdog82
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by fightingfigs
                    Prime vs prime? Why are people questioning that? Not even close Jones KOs Calzaghe.

                    I expected this outcome, Jones looked exactly like this when he fought Trinidad. Calzaghe still has something left in the tank from not fighting the best boxing has to offer at an early age. War scars run deep
                    You say you expected this outcome yet you have a post saying that Jones was going to take calzaghe to school. lol

                    and a prime Jones loses to a prime calzaghe in a similar fashion

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                    • Sir Tom Jones
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                      #40
                      hatton has a point.

                      someone will always be there that calzaghe has to beat, a fight with dawson makes no sense. those calling for the fight know that, dawson has replaced pavlik now as the person calzaghe haters use. joe can't win with those sorta people calling for the fight, if calzaghe did fight dawson and beat him, dawson would be called an overrated bum,

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