If beating a washed up Jones makes Calslappy great....
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That is not the point. The point is are you really saying Joe was not overprotected and wanted to fight the best at their best, and two does beating RJJ make him great? If that is so then Johnson KO'd a washed up former p4p king and must also be a bad man legend just like Tarver. Joe fans won't say that because they know it is pathetic. It would mean Clinton Woods is also a great because he beat (in same robbery manner that Calslappy has won a few fights!) the legnd of Johnson! I'm angry at the rampant ignorance an flawed logic. If they said Johnson must be great too then I will be happy! Also, because sheltered fighters are ******* which isn't what boxing is all about. People like Warren and Calslappy rob real fans and fool Joe Public who then lick Average Joe Calslappy's balls like he is stardust when purists like me know he is ****.
I've never said Joe was not overprotected, so don't go putting words in my mouth. Quite frankly, he doesn't have the best of resumes, its not ****, but its not all star stellar like a DLH resume.
However,
What I've reiterated numerous times is this,
I don't recall Roy or Bernard ever pushing for a Calzaghe fight, so why is all the blame on Joe?Comment
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Pot meet kettle.A puta? Oh okay tough guy. You going to revert to your street fighting personality online now?
no, really it's just your purple font.
If that bothered me (what you wrote) I'd also be up late at night trying to figure out why Walker smith lost so many times or pondering the greatness of Leon spinks. Luckily unlike you, I am not ******ed.
Now call me a "puta" again as if you think that insults me. Fake ass tough guy wannabe
You throw around more insults that anyone on this board.
That makes you a puta, because constant throwing of insults, is a female trait.Comment
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Actually princess, I don't follow any particular fighter and really couldn't have cared less who won the fight. It's the ***** fights between the ******s on here that I really love.
As you were.Comment
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Theynever pushed it because he was a nobody overprotected fighter. I do remember them being asked about ti a few times and they said they would but the bum is hiding which was true! I was not referring to youmaking such comments but I was aying in general that less knowledgeable posters than yourself think he is the bees knees. Especially dumb brits who lick his bum coz they have nothing better and are in desperate need of a homegrown great unlike Lewis.
I've never said Joe was not overprotected, so don't go putting words in my mouth. Quite frankly, he doesn't have the best of resumes, its not ****, but its not all star stellar like a DLH resume.
However,
What I've reiterated numerous times is this,
I don't recall Roy or Bernard ever pushing for a Calzaghe fight, so why is all the blame on Joe?
Another thing that people do not understand is that Warren and Joe represent everything wrong in boxing. People like them are killing the greatest sport in the world wit their cowardly acts of fraud. I find them de****able.His life is a lie, in a sport about truth! Some of the comments are quite shocking. You know a bit but I would disagree that his resume has not been bad. Some of his competition has indeed been awful. The worst thing about it is that he still struggled.Comment
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Theynever pushed it because he was a nobody overprotected fighter. I do remember them being asked about ti a few times and they said they would but the bum is hiding which was true! I was not referring to youmaking such comments but I was aying in general that less knowledgeable posters than yourself think he is the bees knees. Especially dumb brits who lick his bum coz they have nothing better and are in desperate need of a homegrown great unlike Lewis.
Another thing that people do not understand is that Warren and Joe represent everything wrong in boxing. People like them are killing the greatest sport in the world wit their cowardly acts of fraud. I find them de****able.His life is a lie, in a sport about truth! Some of the comments are quite shocking. You know a bit but I would disagree that his resume has not been bad. Some of his competition has indeed been awful. The worst thing about it is that he still struggled.
If you think Joe and Warren represent everything wrong in boxing, surely you must throw Roy Jones and Mayweather into that mix as well. Considering they were self-proclaimed businessmen who just happened to be fighters.
The truth of the matter is when talking about an earlier fight between Joe vs Roy and Bernard, the blame can be spread to everyone, not just one particular camp like you're making it out to be.
You must hate DLH with considerable passion.Comment
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You got a point that nowadays there are no angels, but asking for a throwback is asking a bit too much IMO. Joe and Warren took the piss to levels which made these guys look like Sugar Ray Robinson! If Warren continued to manage Fatty, he would never have got his arse beat down by Collazzo never mind Mayweather. In some ways, I admire Hatton for at least having the balls to go fight some people stilll walking without the use of a stick! Trust me, Warren and Joe are the epitome of the term 'fraud' in boxing. If Sports Netwrok were in America, Oscar wouldn't even be fighting Manny he would be facing Israel Vasquez! He is double the joke other jokers are.
If you think Joe and Warren represent everything wrong in boxing, surely you must throw Roy Jones and Mayweather into that mix as well. Considering they were self-proclaimed businessmen who just happened to be fighters.
The truth of the matter is when talking about an earlier fight between Joe vs Roy and Bernard, the blame can be spread to everyone, not just one particular camp like you're making it out to be.
You must hate DLH with considerable passion.Comment
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You're doing it again guy.You got a point that nowadays there are no angels, but asking for a throwback is asking a bit too much IMO. Joe and Warren took the piss to levels which made these guys look like Sugar Ray Robinson! If Warren continued to manage Fatty, he would never have got his arse beat down by Collazzo never mind Mayweather. In some ways, I admire Hatton for at least having the balls to go fight some people stilll walking without the use of a stick! Trust me, Warren and Joe are the epitome of the term 'fraud' in boxing. If Sports Netwrok were in America, Oscar wouldn't even be fighting Manny he would be facing Israel Vasquez! He is double the joke other jokers are.
Joe is not the only person in the sport who carefully selects opponents. Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins and many other american fighters do the exact same thing.Comment
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Yes, but even their hand picked opponents are better than Joe's which is my point exactly. Who is better, Mario Veit, Sakio Bika and Jeff Lacy or Mike McCallum, James Toney and B-Hop. B-Hop was a tomato can champ until his mid 30's, but then he did fight as many big names as possible and youngsters too. I just don't see Calzaghe ever taking a risk, and that is the problem. He'll only fight people when he thinks they might be ready to get their OAP bus passes. That is difference between him and the the Americans. They did NOT do that. Sure Jones fought Toney when he was slightly off peak, but he wasn't 5-6 years past his prime and coming off brutal KO losses. If Jones lost them fights on points only, I bet Calslappy would not have touched him with bargepole. He only fights when they have no chance. that is not boxing. Americans are not angels, but they do have a hard fight now and then before the other guy is about to die.Comment
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