If beating a washed up Jones makes Calslappy great....

[Wiley Hyena]

Joe's win against Roy was decent. Calzaghe isn't a young man either, then again, he has never been in the ring with competition that even matches Jones and therefor doesn't have the ring years Jones does. At the end of the day, it still an old Jones he beat. It's impossible to give Calzaghe as much credit for beating Jones as Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver. Just not gonna happen.

Really, you shouldn't be blaming the critics for Joe's status being into question. You should be blaming Frank Warren and Joe himself for not having signed to fight bigger names earlier. Now it seems like too little to late. There is no way we are gonna know how Joe faired against these opponents prime for prime since he never fought them when they where a top of their game.

I'm used to seeing nuthuggers on here. They're usually young groupie types. But, wrinkled old nuthuggers like yourself are doubly pathetic. Without a cause and intellectually bankrupt.

Face it. The illusion that was Roy Jones, Jr. was finally and convincingly blown to smithereens last night. It's all over. We all wish Roy the best with all the millions he made off us making bums look like....well, bums.

[markfrombrookly]

then Tarver and Johnson must be ATG's!!! They are obviously legends too based on such idiotic logic, as they actually knocked him out a few years ago when he was also shot. THEREFORE THEY ARE BIGGER LEGENDS THAN CALSLAPPY according to the ****** opinions of Brit boxing fans. In fact Trevor Burbick is also a legend for beating Ali when he had Parkisons. Duran, Leonard and Chavez also made alot of clubfighters and contenders into ATG's. William Joppy took out Duran! What a man.

If you don't like my thread and love Calsappy's pastrami in your bottom then please do educate me when he actually dominated anyone great in their prime. I do remember average fighters like Reid and Kessler giving him trouble though! The 'great' Calslappy probably lost to Reid, who the British press once dubbed as top 20 p4p! I find it highly ammusing that people rate Calslappy for his recent non-acheivements and would like to see someone justify the bull**** hype. Please do....

LOL don't tell that to Calzaghe fans. Truth isnt in their vocabulary haha.

[bsrizpac]

I'm used to seeing nuthuggers on here. They're usually young groupie types. But, wrinkled old nuthuggers like yourself are doubly pathetic. Without a cause and intellectually bankrupt.

Face it. The illusion that was Roy Jones, Jr. was finally and convincingly blown to smithereens last night. It's all over. We all wish Roy the best with all the millions he made off us making bums look like....well, bums.

Didnt' Joe make his name fighting Bums in the ****tiest division in boxing for years? Yup.

Pot meet kettle

[Roger Yomama]

Joe's win against Roy was decent. Calzaghe isn't a young man either, then again, he has never been in the ring with competition that even matches Jones and therefor doesn't have the ring years Jones does. At the end of the day, it still an old Jones he beat. It's impossible to give Calzaghe as much credit for beating Jones as Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver. Just not gonna happen.

Really, you shouldn't be blaming the critics for Joe's status being into question. You should be blaming Frank Warren and Joe himself for not having signed to fight bigger names earlier. Now it seems like too little to late. There is no way we are gonna know how Joe faired against these opponents prime for prime since he never fought them when they where a top of their game.

I'm not blaming anyone for anything. I don't rip fighters to shreds for losing and I don't hang on the balls of the winner either. I'm just more than a little bit bored with the "experts" on this site who when shown to be way off the mark, haven't got the balls to admit it and instead, look for other ways to discredit a fighters accomplishments.

Also, do you know for certain that it was Calzaghe who turned down these fights at an earlier stage in his career? How do you know it wasn't Jones/Hopkins and their respective teams who said no?

[JulioCesaChavez]

Joe's win against Roy was decent. Calzaghe isn't a young man either, then again, he has never been in the ring with competition that even matches Jones and therefor doesn't have the ring years Jones does. At the end of the day, it still an old Jones he beat. It's impossible to give Calzaghe as much credit for beating Jones as Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver. Just not gonna happen.

Really, you shouldn't be blaming the critics for Joe's status being into question. You should be blaming Frank Warren and Joe himself for not having signed to fight bigger names earlier. Now it seems like too little to late. There is no way we are gonna know how Joe faired against these opponents prime for prime since he never fought them when they where a top of their game.

FW, Joe and his dad did it on purpose. They didn't want any part of it because they know he would have suffered a KTFO. Anybody who has observed Fw for past 15 years knows he likes to be a big fish in a little pond just like that German Kohl guy. Calslappy got put down by Jones shadow, says it all really.

You're analysis is spot on. Calslappy is an overrated and overprotected fighter. He even half admits that Jones is slower now which is better for him, and he wants to make it his last fight so he can retire undefeated. In other words, if he carries on fighting he might get KTFO even by an old geezer such as Hopkins or a green fighter like Dawson. I reckon Winky would give him problems. Another fighter that had to go around 168lbs because Joe is a *****.

[Sin City]

I'm used to seeing nuthuggers on here. They're usually young groupie types. But, wrinkled old nuthuggers like yourself are doubly pathetic. Without a cause and intellectually bankrupt.

Face it. The illusion that was Roy Jones, Jr. was finally and convincingly blown to smithereens last night. It's all over. We all wish Roy the best with all the millions he made off us making bums look like....well, bums.

wrinkled old nuthuggers? I wasn't aware I was an old man.
I like watching Jones fight, not gonna call myself a fan of his though.
I've never liked his excuses.
I suppose De La Hoya's win over a shot Julio Cesar Chavez deserves as much praise as Joe's win over Roy then?
How bout Marciano's win over an old Louis?

I'm used to seeing nut huggers on here too, like you. The kind that are blind and think Calzaghe's win over Jones is just as good, if not better then Tarver or Johnson's win over Jones.

Funny you should mention Roy fighting bums though. If we compare Joe's resume with Calzaghe's.. JONES>>>>>>>CALZAGHE when it comes to level of competition.

[bsrizpac]

I'm not blaming anyone for anything. I don't rip fighters to shreds for losing and I don't hang on the balls of the winner either. I'm just more than a little bit bored with the "experts" on this site who when shown to be way off the mark, haven't got the balls to admit it and instead, look for other ways to discredit a fighters accomplishments.

Also, do you know for certain that it was Calzaghe who turned down these fights at an earlier stage in his career? How do you know it wasn't Jones/Hopkins and their respective teams who said no?

I've been ranting and raving that Jones has been shot for YEARS. YEARS.

Next.

[Sin City]

I'm not blaming anyone for anything. I don't rip fighters to shreds for losing and I don't hang on the balls of the winner either. I'm just more than a little bit bored with the "experts" on this site who when shown to be way off the mark, haven't got the balls to admit it and instead, look for other ways to discredit a fighters accomplishments.

Also, do you know for certain that it was Calzaghe who turned down these fights at an earlier stage in his career? How do you know it wasn't Jones/Hopkins and their respective teams who said no?

let's be honest. we both know the way frank warren negotiates.
i'd buy that.. if it wasn't for Hatton. why do you think Hatton booked as soon as he could from Warren's promotion company? he wasn't getting him the fights he wanted.

btw, I picked Calzaghe to win.

[JulioCesaChavez]

Why don't the Calslappy fans make a stand and say it isn't beating Jones that makes their man great, or admit that Glengoff Johnson is great! It has to be either one or the other. This is my problem with Calslappy fans, they know **** all about boxing. and have ****** flawed arguments. I would give them more respect if they admitted yesterday was amoneymaker and claimed the Bika or Lacy fights as his career defining moments! Let's not forget how he also schooled the great Mario Veit! Let's face it, non of his prime opponents were proven quality. Lacy was the best who wasa hype job KOing has beens. That was the best of Calslappy, but the newbie fans who lick his balls think he's done a job on a prime RJJ. Honestly they do, if you spoke to them in pubs you would want to beat them up.

[Wiley Hyena]

I'm not blaming anyone for anything. I don't rip fighters to shreds for losing and I don't hang on the balls of the winner either. I'm just more than a little bit bored with the "experts" on this site who when shown to be way off the mark, haven't got the balls to admit it and instead, look for other ways to discredit a fighters accomplishments.

Also, do you know for certain that it was Calzaghe who turned down these fights at an earlier stage in his career? How do you know it wasn't Jones/Hopkins and their respective teams who said no?

Good post.

The fact is that neither Hopkins or Jones Jr. were willing to go to Britain to fight Calzaghe. Not because of the money, but because of the risk. They knew that Calzaghe was a formidable champion and he was too risky to gamble a loss on. It's also true that Calzaghe wouldn't leave Britain to fight. But, the bottom line is that had Hopkins or Jones wanted that fight...they could have gotten it, even if it meant having to go to Britain. They were the stars. They were the money draw. Either or both could have had Calzaghe years ago.