Calzaghe beats Jones at any age.

[Dynamite Kid]

What kind of **** is this?

ALL fighters rely on their reflexes.

Some choose to develop actual technique to go along with natural abilities.

Roy didn't, and it cost him later in his career.

jesus christ talk about pedantic its obvious all fighters rely on reflexes but come on dont play dumb you know exaclty the point im making

[wmute]

There is more to boxing than america.

You guys need to realize that.

Roy and many other high profile american boxers never fighting outside the states says quite a bit about their confidence in their abilities.

Or it just says they have been robbed in the olympics abroad?

Or they watched Ottke-Reid?

[Vasyl’s dad]

jesus christ talk about pedantic its obvious all fighters rely on reflexes but come on dont play dumb you know exaclty the point im making

And the point is, all fighters lose speed and reflexes as they age, not just Roy Jones Jr.

Take the Roy from 8 years ago and match him with Calzaghe of 8 years ago and its a very close fight.

[bsrizpac]

Or it just says they have been robbed in the olympics abroad?

Or they watched Ottke-Reid?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Or it just says they have been robbed in the olympics abroad?

Or they watched Ottke-Reid?

The Olympics are pro fights now?

[wmute]

read the thread.

No snap a one-liner, because your point is unclear. You are not making much sense or a point other than the joy you find in talking **** about Jones.

[wmute]

The Olympics are pro fights now?

No, they involve judges just the same.

Ottke-Reid was am? The countless BS decisions in Germany/Italy are am fights?

[K-Nan]

Prove otherwise?

The fact is, we have one thing to go by on this, and that's the beating Joe gave Roy last night.

Roy wasn't so far slid that he would have had that beating from a bum, so Calzaghe must be a great fighter.
It was also one sided enough to suggest that Calzaghe could have beaten Roy at any time.

I don't think he would, but he wouldn't have disgraced himself, and it would probably be a SD.

Oh my ****ing God. LOL.. This **** is just incredible.

So you're saying that there is no middle ground between "Bum" and "ATG"? Hahahaha! You should just stick to talking **** in the Thunderdome.

[Dynamite Kid]

And the point is, all fighters lose speed and reflexes as they age, not just Roy Jones Jr.

Take the Roy from 8 years ago and match him with Calzaghe of 8 years ago and its a very close fight.

but as you said Jones did not develop his style and was punished so

close NO competitive yes but Calzaghe still loses a clear decsion imo

Calzaghe is an Elite fighter you could never say it would be WIDE UD but he would get beat clearly imo

[wmute]

And the point is, all fighters lose speed and reflexes as they age, not just Roy Jones Jr.

Take the Roy from 8 years ago and match him with Calzaghe of 8 years ago and its a very close fight.

Ok look

I will try to explain this.

Who looked better past 35? Moore or Charles?

What happened when they actually fought?

So by your ******ed 'logic' we should conclude that in their old age Charles would have been better, and hence LHW champion in his 40s