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    #241
    Originally posted by ferocity
    I knew you were using boxrec when you mentioned all those names that DM. You really have no clue what you were talking about. Or how good DM was once considered. Its just a fact that Roy avoided DM, a fighter that was around before Roy there.

    What did Margarito do that makes you say do anything for a shot?

    You mean fight top fighters?
    I'm disappointed in this post.

    First, I haven't even peeked at boxrec, I'm quite familiar with Dariusz. In fact, I was fortunate enough to watch his two fights with Hall online a couple months after it occured. His bout with Virgil Hill aired on ABC. And I watched his bout with Derrick Harmon days after it occured as well.

    Why would I mention "wars?" You think I'm guessing? LOL. Who really has no clue?

    I know how good Dariusz was considered - pretty good but not THAT good. His defense was his chin but his strength and stamina - and an EXTREMELY underrated jab - were his strong suits. In terms of footwork, Dariusz made Kelly Pavlik look like Gregory Hines.

    It's not a fact that Jones "avoided" him so stop pretending. You act is if Dariusz beat everyone up at LHW or something. The only fighter he fought that wasn't a Jones leftover worth mentioning - and I might miss someone since I'm not using boxrec - is Virgil Hill. He fought Hill first. Other than that...he beat whoever Jones beat and struggled far more doing it every time.

    As for Margarito, he had no high money demands or location problems. That's the difference.

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      #242
      Originally posted by Ryn0
      I think it was the first round, I really don't think it was that punch that ruined Roy beacuse after that he was never hit cleanly. Ruiz just wasn't fast enough, I think it was dropping in weight it wasn't like Roy was carrying fat on him he was pure muscle and losing that to get to 175 made him look fat against Tarver on the night he ruined himself by moving to 175 so quickly he proberbly should have fought at Cruiserweight and taken half a year off to get him body right then fought at 175 again.
      True but going to crusierweight is a risk in itself cause hbo wouldn't allow him to fight an easy target may have wanted him to fight at top dog at crusierweight. One thing that also has to be taken into consideration is Roys steriode use. Wasn't the scandal around that time and Roys name was on the list of roid users.

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        #243
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        I'm disappointed in this post.

        First, I haven't even peeked at boxrec, I'm quite familiar with Dariusz. In fact, I was fortunate enough to watch his two fights with Hall online a couple months after it occured. His bout with Virgil Hill aired on ABC. And I watched his bout with Derrick Harmon days after it occured as well.

        Why would I mention "wars?" You think I'm guessing? LOL. Who really has no clue?

        I know how good Dariusz was considered - pretty good but not THAT good. His defense was his chin but his strength and stamina - and an EXTREMELY underrated jab - were his strong suits. In terms of footwork, Dariusz made Kelly Pavlik look like Gregory Hines.

        It's not a fact that Jones "avoided" him so stop pretending. You act is if Dariusz beat everyone up at LHW or something. The only fighter he fought that wasn't a Jones leftover worth mentioning - and I might miss someone since I'm not using boxrec - is Virgil Hill. He fought Hill first. Other than that...he beat whoever Jones beat and struggled far more doing it every time.

        As for Margarito, he had no high money demands or location problems. That's the difference.
        It a fact that Roy avoided him, after talking down on DM, you bring him up, lol. Just face it Roy avoided fighter and DM happens to be one of them. Styles make fights so stop acting like Roy kills everybody.

        So you saying Mayweather is a ***** and wants home turf, and wants out ragious money demands to fight the best, ok, i agree. Margarito don't care where he fights, he's a throw back in that way.

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          #244
          One *********, Dariusz' chin wasn't that good - it was his amazing conditioning. Griffen stunned him early, Rochigianni hurt him, as did Hall and Harmon.

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            #245
            Its a fact that Roy avoided him, after talking down on DM, you bring him up, lol.
            When did I contradict myself, genius? And opinion doesnt equal fact.
            Just face it Roy avoided fighter and DM happens to be one of them.
            Oh you said it so I guess it's true.

            Styles make fights so stop acting like Roy kills everybody.
            This coming from someone who keeps confusing facts with opinions.

            So you saying Mayweather is a ***** and wants home turf, and wants out ragious money demands to fight the best, ok, i agree. Margarito don't care where he fights, he's a throw back in that way.
            No, I never called Floyd anything, wtf are you talking about? God, you have issues.

            How about you use facts to back up your, umm, "facts?"

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              #246
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              One *********, Dariusz' chin wasn't that good - it was his amazing conditioning. Griffen stunned him early, Rochigianni hurt him, as did Hall and Harmon.
              So now you saying Roy v. Darious would of been all about who had the better chin?

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                #247
                Originally posted by ferocity
                So now you saying Roy v. Darious would of been all about who had the better chin?
                No, I'm saying that I amend my earlier post where I said Dariusz' chin was his strong suit. Can you read?

                God, you're ******.

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                  #248
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  When did I contradict myself, genius? And opinion doesnt equal fact.

                  Oh you said it so I guess it's true.



                  This coming from someone who keeps confusing facts with opinions.



                  No, I never called Floyd anything, wtf are you talking about? God, you have issues.

                  How about you use facts to back up your, umm, "facts?"
                  Roy was scared to face DM, end of story. He said before his fight was signed with Calzaghe that he'd fight him in Europe, Roy grew balls after he got, ktfo, seeing how in his prime he didn't even think about facing DM in Europe.

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                    #249
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    No, I'm saying that I amend my earlier post where I said Dariusz' chin was his strong suit. Can you read?

                    God, you're ******
                    .
                    He is p4p BoxingScene's worst poster dude, don't waste your time.

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                      #250
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      No, I'm saying that I amend my earlier post where I said Dariusz' chin was his strong suit. Can you read?

                      God, you're ******.
                      After you talk about his jab and his other skills.

                      Im responding to your ****** post, that you wrote. Im flattered that you think im GOD.

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