Roy Jones Jr. - "Hopkins Can Forget a Rematch!"

[Dan...]

I wouldn't be surprised if the fight comes off if Roy was able to pull off a win. They should get it done for 50/50.

[shynequasiog22]

You gotta think that if he beats Joe a Bhop rematch will be big enough to get RJJ to agree to it. They will both be ranked in the top 10 P4P and still two of the biggest names in the sport. Too much money, fame and legacy to turn it down.

[FLY TY]

Contrary to popular belief, Jones beats Chad Dawson and Tarver. Dawson is a good boxer but he doesn't have that killer instinct to beat a Roy Jones. As for Tarver, I think the weight has become an issue for him. He may do better as a cruiserweight. As a former amateur fighter for 13 years, your body outgrows weight classes and it tells in your performances. Tarver has been losing his fights in the gym, you can see it in his body. Making weight at damn near 40 years of age is alot different than making weight at 30.

are you smoking??? roy NEVER beats tarver again.....tarver is in that man's head. period. even tho he hasn't looked worth a **** since he lost to b-hop, tarver will find a way to look good if he fought jones again....

chad dawson is just as fast as roy, throws combos, has good counter-punching skills, plus roy has a glass chin......dawson hits hard. he'll take jones's head off.....

Actually, Roy Jones is the one that counter offered 60-40 to the winner, and B-Hop didn't reply.

B-Hop also said that if G-Leon did a poll about how had the better legacy, that the people would pick him over Jones, and that's why it shouldn't be 50-50.

G-Leon did the poll, and Jones won the poll 60-40.

Then B-Hop never said another word and went to fight Wright instead.

It's simple really:

B-Hop should have taken the fight for 60-40 in 2001/2002 when it was offered. That was fair money back then because Roy was p4p #1, was the bigger name, and already had a win over Hopkins.

Hopkins didn't bite and said that it wasn't really 40% for him because Don King was going to take his cut out of Hopkins purse. That's not really Roy's problem.

Also, Hopkins didn't want to entertain the notion of going up to 175 and was insisting the fight take place at 168 (a weight that Jones hadn't fought at in 5 years.

It's funny how Hopkins had no problem going all the way up to 175 to meet Tarver a few years later.

Then the BS that Hopkins pulled in 2006 (before he fought Tarver) and 2007 (before he fought Winky) was ridiculous.

Roy has every right to be pissed at him. I don't believe Hopkins has ever been serious about trying to avenge his loss to Roy, until maybe now, 8 years after the fight would have really meant something, and 5 years after Roy was definitely past his best.

I'm not saying that Hopkins was/is scared of Roy, but if he really wanted that rematch, it was on the table for him in fair terms and he didn't take it for whatever reason.

For the record, I think Roy Jones in 2001/2002 would have won handily.

i'm not talking about 2001-2002.....i'm talking about AFTER the wright fight. HOPKINS offered 60 to the winner to roy, and roy turned it down...that's when the calzaghe fight came off.....BOTH guys started negotiating with calzaghe after their **** fell through......roy was still the **** in 2001-02, so i could understand him wanting 60-40.....but after 3 losses in a row???

Roy aint no one dimensional fighter like Pavlik. RJJ is just as crafty as Hopkins and I doubt he is worried about a man he beat in his prime.

hopkins WASN'T in his prime when they fought tho........right now hopkins is the better fighter...so yea, roy SHOULD be worried. after all, who has roy fought since he lost those fights to johnson and tarver? who has hopkins fought? it's no denying.......

Now I hope Roy and Joe knock each other out

yea, that's what i was saying. i don't care who wins, now.....BUT i think my dislike for calzaghe is a lil' stronger at this point.....at least he backs his talk up, i must say. roy just talks..........

it will be 50-50, they both would be champions, two of the best boxers at it again......yeah, it would be an excellent fight...

hopkins beat a champ, but he didn't win the title, b/c he fought pavlik not at middleweight, but at a catchweight.........but based on the competition they both have had.......

[runningbeast666]

We may have seen the end of Bernard Hopkins last weekend. After his dominating win over Kelly Pavlik, Hopkins told BoxingScene.com's Jose "OnFire" Aguirre that his only motivation to continue fighting was to land the winner of the November 8 bout between Roy Jones Jr. and Joe Calzaghe. Calzaghe, who won a close decision over Hopkins in April, said that he was not interested in a Hopkins rematch and would not even consider the fight. [details]

I thought it was Calzaghe who said, he can forget about a rematch. I dont think that Roy Jones said that publicy. I need proof man... [IMG]http://i43.***********.com/albums/e368/cmax17/LARRYMERCHANT1.jpg[/IMG]

[MafiosA]

to me jones has always been a *****
over hes career he fought hop and toney proving he was a class fighter
then fought the longest series of bums in history, avoiding fights with calzaghe, ottke and Michalczewski or rematches with hopkins and toney, i hear all this **** about those fights falling though or he already beat hop/toney y rematch em, any1 of those fights would have been better then the crap we saw jones fight in that time ,later rjj fought ruiz (who is no one special, but tha fact that he was a heavyweight made the fight big) then got whooped by tarver, and beat a faded fat trinidad..

hopkins on the other hand lost rjj way back in a close fight, then put on a huge winning streak and took on the best in the buisness
a prime trinidad, delahoya, taylor, tarvor, winky, calzaghe and pavlik
hopkins aways fought the big fights, jones didnt
hopkins deserves a chance 2 avenge the loss, even at 43 agaist a 39 yr old jones
the rematch should take place with a 50/50 split
and is 15 years overdue

[Dan...]

to me jones has always been a *****
over hes career he fought hop and toney proving he was a class fighter
then fought the longest series of bums in history, avoiding fights with calzaghe, ottke and Michalczewski or rematches with hopkins and toney, i hear all this **** about those fights falling though or he already beat hop/toney y rematch em, any1 of those fights would have been better then the crap we saw jones fight in that time ,later rjj fought ruiz (who is no one special, but tha fact that he was a heavyweight made the fight big) then got whooped by tarver, and beat a faded fat trinidad..

hopkins on the other hand lost rjj way back in a close fight, then put on a huge winning streak and took on the best in the buisness
a prime trinidad, delahoya, taylor, tarvor, winky, calzaghe and pavlik
hopkins aways fought the big fights, jones didnt
hopkins deserves a chance 2 avenge the loss, even at 43 agaist a 39 yr old jones
the rematch should take place with a 50/50 split
and is 15 years overdue

Yeah, Roy was terrified of Sven.

What a fkn terrible post that was.

[Clegg]

Ottke was a beast. He KO'D prime Tyson in sparring.

[FightTalent]

to me jones has always been a *****
over hes career he fought hop and toney proving he was a class fighter
then fought the longest series of bums in history, avoiding fights with calzaghe, ottke and Michalczewski or rematches with hopkins and toney, i hear all this **** about those fights falling though or he already beat hop/toney y rematch em, any1 of those fights would have been better then the crap we saw jones fight in that time ,later rjj fought ruiz (who is no one special, but tha fact that he was a heavyweight made the fight big) then got whooped by tarver, and beat a faded fat trinidad..

hopkins on the other hand lost rjj way back in a close fight, then put on a huge winning streak and took on the best in the buisness
a prime trinidad, delahoya, taylor, tarvor, winky, calzaghe and pavlik
hopkins aways fought the big fights, jones didnt
hopkins deserves a chance 2 avenge the loss, even at 43 agaist a 39 yr old jones
the rematch should take place with a 50/50 split
and is 15 years overdue

I wouldnt call Montell Griffin, Virgil Hill, Eric Harding and Reggie Johnson bums especially during the mid/late 90's, lets give them each some credit here. Trini, yes, past his prime, but Roy is no spring chicken.

For Hopkins, keep in mind, Trini and ODLH went up in weight, by their own choice and arrogance and lost. Taylor and Tarver were good wins, the Winky fight ****** - we all know it, JC, well he LOST so if Roy wins does that take him out the ***** column? Also, a good win for Bhop for an overmatched Pavlik, and those string of victories after his loss to RJ, well many werent household names then or now.

When you are in the driver's seat you can semi-dictate and thats what Roy did in his day - he had nothing to prove nor did he need to travel across the pond to JC. JC should have come to him to make a name for himself. Same can be said of the rematch for him and Bhop - they couldnt come to terms due to ego. I give credit when its due, but can also criticize both fighters in several areas, bottomline, both are hall of famers and a rematch, although late as hell, might not be bad....the winner should knock on Chad's door then...

[Clegg]

"Taylor and Tarver were good wins"

Really? Pretty sure that the Taylor fights weren't good wins for Hopkins.

[FightTalent]

"Taylor and Tarver were good wins"

Really? Pretty sure that the Taylor fights weren't good wins for Hopkins.

Typo - good fight in terms of opposition with Taylor, good win over Tarver. Thanks.