How many people here think Pavlik's jump in weight SEVERELY affected his chances?

[Run]

1. Pavlik was severely affected by the weight jump.

2. Nard would whip his ass at any weight, at any time.

really all there is to it.



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[Motofan]

Not only that, if you look at Boxrec, you will see that Pavlik has fought at or near that weight before...several times. And that was years ago. No way you tell me that Kel hasn't grown in the past four years.

It isn't the weight. It is the opponent. Kel is a great white hype that many bought into.

Lets not go that far. He beat Miranda when nobody would fight him. He beat Taylor twice when nobody had (Hopkins couldnt.) He isnt a bad fighter or hype. Hopkins style and ability just beats Pavliks style and ability.

[Drunk Punch]

I don't think the weight made any difference at all, he just met his match.

[boxing_great]

Not really. Pavlik could barely land on Bernard. Bernard boxed and moved and gave him an entertaining boxing lesson all night. Pavlik never fought someone who didn't stand right in front of him and it showed.

kelly only knows 1 way to fight, and that is forward and back fighting.
Hopkins capitalised on that, and countered kelly everytime he threw a punch.
That is a major discouragement to stop throwing punches.

[MANGLER]

Can't say it meant nothin at all, but it can't be used as an excuse either. the better fighter won.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Lets not go that far. He beat Miranda when nobody would fight him. He beat Taylor twice when nobody had (Hopkins couldnt.) He isnt a bad fighter or hype. Hopkins style and ability just beats Pavliks style and ability.

When you ae a p4p ranked young lion, you should not get dominated by a 44 year old man. Regardless of his style. You have a size, strength and age advantage.

He IS/WAS hyped. Even DLH was not dominated the way that Kel was.


Can you imagine ANYBODY dominating Mayweather the way KP got schooled? 119-106? Really??

[Porter's Dad]

When you ae a p4p ranked young lion, you should not get dominated by a 44 year old man. Regardless of his style. You have a size, strength and age advantage.

He IS/WAS hyped. Even DLH was not dominated the way that Kel was.


Can you imagine ANYBODY dominating Mayweather the way KP got schooled? 119-106? Really??

Lol, why would you compare PAvlik to Floyd? Even if you're talking about it in terms of being on the p4p list, it doesn't make sense.

[Flawless 2]

Pavlik is not a hype beating Taylor twice and Edison proves that. I hope he comes back and beats both WInky and AA

[Derranged]

It might very well be a factor. Lol at Larry Merchant, he was pissed the way the fight was going!

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Lol, why would you compare PAvlik to Floyd? Even if you're talking about it in terms of being on the p4p list, it doesn't make sense.

Mayweather was also an undeafeated young fighter at one point...no? A guy on the p4p list.

Do fighters have to be the same weight for us to compare the respective arcs of their careers?

You just hate the comparison because it further emphasizes your hype job.