Joe Calzaghe vs Kelly Pavlik

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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #51
    Originally posted by them_apples
    with that Logic Pavlik should have won, he beat Taylor..and Taylor beat Hopkins.
    I thought Hopkins beat Taylor both times.

    I wasnt doing a triangle theory. I was comparing their respective performances. Whichever way you spin it, Calzaghe won and Pavlik got dominated. You criticised Calzaghe for struggling against 43 year old Hopkins. You should do the same for Pavlik against an older Hopkins and thus give Calzaghe credit for actually pulling off a win.

    But Calzaghe massacres Pavlik. Ive said it all along.

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      #52
      Originally posted by them_apples
      Yea to bad he didn't stumble in head first and miss with 80% of his slaps, that would have been an excellent win.
      actually i think it was 100%. i doubt calzaghe can fool the judges again into giving him another gift decision.

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        #53
        Originally posted by daggum
        actually i think it was 100%. i doubt calzaghe can fool the judges again into giving him another gift decision.
        Change the record.

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        • them_apples
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          #54
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          I thought Hopkins beat Taylor both times.

          I wasnt doing a triangle theory. I was comparing their respective performances. Whichever way you spin it, Calzaghe won and Pavlik got dominated. You criticised Calzaghe for struggling against 43 year old Hopkins. You should do the same for Pavlik against an older Hopkins and thus give Calzaghe credit for actually pulling off a win.

          But Calzaghe massacres Pavlik. Ive said it all along.
          Taylors win was more impressive than Zaghes though...don't you think? Be real here, regardless of my previous posts..

          I did criticize him for being to old, I give Zaghe more credit...I still don't think he won though. Rematch req'd.

          You are hinting at a triangle theory when you act like Calzaghe would Woop Pavlik for sure now because Hopkins beat him. Calzaghe doesn't fight like Hopkins..he gets hit a whole lot more - often flush, he also doesn't hit as hard. It would be a much different fight, also factor in height, 5'11 - 6'2 1/2
          Last edited by them_apples; 10-19-2008, 02:15 AM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by them_apples
            Taylors win was more impressive than Zaghes though...don't you think? Be real here, regardless of my previous posts..

            I did criticize him for being to old, I give Zaghe more credit...I still don't think he won though. Rematch req'd.
            calzaghe got taken to school. the appearance of doing something by moving your arms around in the air doesn't mean you are actually "boxing"

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            • riera
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              #56
              Who gives a ****? LOL. B-Hop is the man and beat both arses down. What a ****ing living legend. A 43 year old machine.

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                #57
                Originally posted by them_apples
                Pavlik lost because Hopkins has some of the best footwork in the game. Calzaghe doesn't. Calzaghe throws a lot of punches and he brawls some of the time, he's not as elusive as Hopkins ether.

                Pavlik lost but he has still destroyed his share of decent fighters. It would be no Jeff Lacy BS.

                One thing is for sure, Joe didn't really beat Hopkins ether, whichever way you spin it.

                I will give Calzaghe more Credit than I have in the past though.
                So you do now think that Calzaghe would beat Pavlic!?

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by them_apples
                  Pavlik lost because Hopkins has some of the best footwork in the game. Calzaghe doesn't. Calzaghe throws a lot of punches and he brawls some of the time, he's not as elusive as Hopkins ether.

                  Pavlik lost but he has still destroyed his share of decent fighters. It would be no Jeff Lacy BS.

                  One thing is for sure, Joe didn't really beat Hopkins ether, whichever way you spin it.

                  I will give Calzaghe more Credit than I have in the past though.
                  If you think hopkins has got more movement/footwork than Calzaghe then i dont know what your doing here?
                  Calzaghe would easy work out Pavlic! Anybody with knowledge on both fighters styles can see this!

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Mrpedigree
                    If you think hopkins has got more movement/footwork than Calzaghe then i dont know what your doing here?
                    Calzaghe would easy work out Pavlic! Anybody with knowledge on both fighters styles can see this!
                    If you think Calzaghe has better feet than B-Hop than I don't know what you are doing here ether.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by them_apples
                      If you think Calzaghe has better feet than B-Hop than I don't know what you are doing here ether.
                      great reply

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