Joe Calzaghe vs Kelly Pavlik

[them_apples]

I just get the ****s with the way guys like you turn the discussion on these boards from topics on logical boxing to just Calzaghe haters and Calzaghe huggers throwing **** at each other. people like you and daggum just hate the ****n euros and thats fine but it just gets annoying when every thread turns into the same ****.

Also you said Pernell was overrated. That don't sit well with me son. Noone ****s on Pea.

I think I said Pea's speed was overrated, if you can find a post of me saying he in general was, then I take that back. I did say his speed was overrated, because you told me he was faster than Pacquiao. No hate, I just don't see Pea as the quicker fighter between the two, even in his Prime.

[jangeorg]

Pavlik lost because Hopkins has some of the best footwork in the game. Calzaghe doesn't. Calzaghe throws a lot of punches and he brawls some of the time, he's not as elusive as Hopkins ether.

Pavlik lost but he has still destroyed his share of decent fighters. It would be no Jeff Lacy BS.

One thing is for sure, Joe didn't really beat Hopkins ether, whichever way you spin it.

you need to lay off the crack pipe

[Dan...]

I think I said Pea's speed was overrated, if you can find a post of me saying he in general was, then I take that back. I did say his speed was overrated, because you told me he was faster than Pacquiao. No hate

I think you said I was overrating him or something like that. Can't really be bothered to find the post, it might have been in a discussion in the fantasy fights forum or something?

I don't have a problem with you to be honest dude. I get annoyed sometimes that you think current fighters are vastly superior to past greats. I dont nuthug the old ****s or anything but I recall you saying Pacquiao would beat Pernell at 135, and that **** is just not cool.

[them_apples]

I think you said I was overrating him or something like that. Can't really be bothered to find the post, it might have been in a discussion in the fantasy fights forum or something?

I don't have a problem with you to be honest dude. I get annoyed sometimes that you think current fighters are vastly superior to past greats. I dont nuthug the old ****s or anything but I recall you saying Pacquiao would beat Pernell at 135, and that **** is just not cool.

Yea I did say that, but you changed my mind! I simply hadn't seen enough of Pea's fights at 135.

[Dan...]

Yea I did say that, but you changed my mind! I simply hadn't seen enough of Pea's fights at 135.

Sweetness. Pea at 135 was an incredible beast. Whenever I wanna see an unbeatable guy in the ring I either watch that **** or RJ at 168.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

show me some Footage of Calzaghe landing something meaningful on Hopkins and maybe I'll change my opinion.

Watch the fight.

Your opinion on what?

Pavlik was too **** to even land slaps or glancing blows.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Yea I did say that, but you changed my mind! I simply hadn't seen enough of Pea's fights at 135.

I dont think you've seen enough of boxing full stop.

[them_apples]

Watch the fight.

Your opinion on what?

Pavlik was too **** to even land slaps or glancing blows.

Yea to bad he didn't stumble in head first and miss with 80% of his slaps, that would have been an excellent win.

Anyways, lets bet some points

RJJ 15k over Zaghe

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Yea to bad he didn't stumble in head first and miss with 80% of his slaps, that would have been an excellent win.

Calzaghe won.

Pavlik lost every round.

You do the math.

[them_apples]

Calzaghe won.

Pavlik lost every round.

You do the math.

with that Logic Pavlik should have won, he beat Taylor..and Taylor beat Hopkins.