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  • warp1432
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    #151
    Originally posted by realheavyhands
    only for the 2 or 3 years he was nuts .. he went in there to kill at that time.. larry holmes was bette rthen tyson and look what happend to him.. cuz tyson walked thru his shots... he was nuts... after he calmed down he was weak..
    Tyson was always weak mentally and Holmes was no where near prime. Tyson was great with walking through people's shots, but he was **** when people could walk through his.
    Last edited by warp1432; 11-20-2008, 11:28 PM.

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    • realheavyhands
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      #152
      Originally posted by warp1432
      Tyson was always weak mentally and Holmes was no where near prime.
      holmes was never knocked out...ever.. besides tyson.. and he gave holyfield hell with one arm after that fight..he was strong mentally .. he was just crazy he wasnted to kill

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      • 3_Hooks
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        #153
        Originally posted by warp1432
        Tyson was always weak mentally and Holmes was no where near prime. Tyson was great with walking through people's shots, but he was **** when people could walk through his.
        no one walked through tyson's shots. that's the thing, holmes was surviving tyson by moving away from him but he was still losing until he decided to stand in front of tyson and got knocked out. the same thing vitali would do, stand in front of tyson and get koed.

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        • Benny Leonard
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          #154
          Originally posted by warp1432
          Tyson was always weak mentally and Holmes was no where near prime. Tyson was great with walking through people's shots, but he was **** when people could walk through his.
          Tyson went the distance a few times in his youth and never lost a decision. He did actually out-box fighters when he was with Rooney...and even after, he did decision Ruddock in the second fight and battered him.

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            #155
            Originally posted by 3_Hooks
            no one walked through tyson's shots. that's the thing, holmes was surviving tyson by moving away from him but he was still losing until he decided to stand in front of tyson and got knocked out. the same thing vitali would do, stand in front of tyson and get koed.
            ive never seen anyone walk thru a tyson shot ...except after he tore his knee in his last fight

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            • Silencers
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              #156
              Originally posted by realheavyhands
              ive never seen anyone walk thru a tyson shot ...except after he tore his knee in his last fight
              Evander Holyfield.

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              • warp1432
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                #157
                Originally posted by 3_Hooks
                no one walked through tyson's shots. that's the thing, holmes was surviving tyson by moving away from him but he was still losing until he decided to stand in front of tyson and got knocked out. the same thing vitali would do, stand in front of tyson and get koed.
                I'm talking about someone who could have the motivation to take his shots and then dish back. Not many could, but when they did like Buster and Holyfield, he cracked. He wasn't strong mentally.

                Holmes being an older fighter didn't have the iron chin and will to take brutally hard shots, which is fine and understandable, so he got knocked out. You could argue about him going out after and giving Holyfield a good fight, but couple of things:

                1. Holyfield still never hit as hard as Tyson. The point I'm trying to make is that Tyson was weak minded when people could take his shots. He was never stable in his prime anyway. He was a monster, but that monster would be stopped when people could stand up to him. Holmes being an older fighter, couldn't.

                Holmes is still a great win for him though, I'm just saying. Holyfield and Lewis would have beaten him Prime for Prime. Same with Ali for that matter, but I was kind of referencing guys.

                As for Vitali vs Tyson, I think it's close, but Tyson was incredibly fast and had a good workrate and even though Vitali is tall and awkward as hell, I think Mike gets to him.

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                • them_apples
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Silencers
                  Evander Holyfield.
                  more my smothered....by holyfield ranks pretty high in terms of toughness and conditioning, he also had solid defense. Klit will stand there and will get overwhelmed.

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                  • warp1432
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                    Tyson went the distance a few times in his youth and never lost a decision. He did actually out-box fighters when he was with Rooney...and even after, he did decision Ruddock in the second fight and battered him.
                    Razor Ruddock is nowhere near the skill of Evander Holyfield and others. I might even say Vitali Klitchsko...

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by them_apples
                      more my smothered....by holyfield ranks pretty high in terms of toughness and conditioning, he also had solid defense. Klit will stand there and will get overwhelmed.
                      Holyfield took some big shots in their first fight and walked through them all night.

                      That's the thing, Klitschko isn't a stationary target, he always used movement, awkward movement, to get out of the way of punches. Tyson would have a hard time getting to him because there would be a big height difference and punching up takes some snap and speed out of the punches plus Klitschko has a very good chin, so if he survives the initial Tyson onslaught, Klitschko can win.

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