Vitali Klitschko would KO Prime Tyson

[Dan...]

i dunno what the heck ur on lol

You asked why he would think Vitali would KO Tyson, I answered.

The man is so blinded by his racist hate he would pretty much pick any white boxer over any black.

[Benny Leonard]

You bring up some good points, but Teddy Atlas even said that Mike had problems as a kid long before his **** partying issues.

I'm not dismissing Tyson's skills, he obviously was a monster, but he wasn't unbeatable and I think you would have seen him to lose to people with a better will and not to mention that Holyfield was taller and could lean on him. Mike would have done better, but Holyfield still would have won.

Lewis would have beat Tyson because Lewis' jab was fantastic and he would have just been a stylistic nightmare for Tyson.

I think Tyson could struggle with Vitali is because Vitali had a hell of a chin and he was tall. Not to mention Vitali is pretty strong too. **** you are right about Chris Byrd though Hell this might be a battle of "who can last the longest before they quit"

Tyson pulls it away, but I think he could defenietly see some trouble against him.

I take what Atlas says into consideration, however; Rooney has gone against Atlas and says Teddy is basically a liar on many things and reinterprets things that suit him. I do think there is a high {not to high} accuracy with what Atlas says about Tyson when Teddy was with him, however; Tyson was still fresh/young...not matured.

You have to remember that Tyson was taken in around 12 or 13. Teddy was out the door when Mike was around 15/16. That's not a lot of time to mature as a fighter, let alone try to correct the crap that Tyson went through prior to arriving. Cus used to say that you must break down a person layer by layer and then rebuild him back up.

If you notice, Tyson in the amateurs was different than Tyson as a pro. Tyson also didn’t have that many amateur fights when others have well over 50-100. You could see with each fight Tyson had as a pro his skills got better; he got cleaner/sharper; and of course, more confident. His confidence level got even higher after he won the title. I like to point to him finally settling on the Black shorts, black shoes as the beginning. One of the things that I've heard with Tyson was a part of the belief or all of the belief in himself was because Cus believed in him...which is probably true with Rooney and him.

Holyfield: I always felt Mike would have beaten Holyfield, although it would have been a tough fight. The fight was set-up by Cayton to take place after a World Tour Mike was supposed to go on...but as we know, after Spinks, Mike canned Cayton as well as Rooney so the fight went down the drain. King would bring the fight back but Tyson screwed it up with Douglas. Rooney actually mentioned Holyfield’s name at the Spinks-post-fight-press-conference…same conference Mike let’s out his idea of retiring.

The reason I feel Mike would have won with Rooney at his side against Holyfield was that I've always wondered about Holyfield’s ability to take body-shots, especially over a course of a fight...and especially a body-puncher like Tyson. Tyson would also mix them up: body shot followed up with a head shots in combinations. He didn't do this after he left Rooney. Tyson also used a jab, which was good and strong, while with Rooney. Not so after he left.

Holyfield's body, especially at that time, was small. Even when he bulked up a lot of it was his chest, shoulders and arms. The waist isn't getting thicker to absorb those shots except maybe with HGH; not sure how that works exactly. Most HWs don't throw body shots but Mike did.

Holyfield wasn't in his prime, Mike either, but when they met Tyson hurt Evander to the body badly but Mike didn't know how to follow up and never made it an obligation to wear down Evander through the fight with body-shots like he used to do.

Holyfield could win this fight, but I would favor Tyson when he was with Rooney.
It would have certainly told us how good Tyson was while with Rooney…could he be pushed by someone with the heart/will of Holyfield and win. Sometimes incredible skills overcomes Will/Heart of an opponent…Atlas says this as well

Lewis: I always thought Lewis would give Mike a tough test and Mike knew it; which is why he avoided Lewis when he came out of prison because he knew if he wasn't at his best, he didn't stand a good chance of winning.

Prime vs. Prime: tough call, but I wonder if Lewis would have been able to beat him. His jab was overrated, even Holmes said that...and it is one arm Lewis can't protect himself with when Mike counters after getting under it since Lewis, like Holmes says, just paws with it. If it was a great jab, yeah, I would say Mike would have a harder time, but even then, I'm not quite sure the jab was that big of a deal against Tyson since he was not a plodder like 99% of HWs. He knew how to get inside and use body shots in combinations to throw the balance off of his opponent.
Lewis's uppercut would be his biggest weapon, as well as trying to tie Mike up and wear him down.

[WLAD_OWNS]

You asked why he would think Vitali would KO Tyson, I answered.

The man is so blinded by his racist hate he would pretty much pick any white boxer over any black.

I've had enough of your bull**** you Aussie scumbag....you don't even know me, why are you stalking me and always accusing me of being racist?

[FLYBOY]

You asked why he would think Vitali would KO Tyson, I answered.

The man is so blinded by his racist hate he would pretty much pick any white boxer over any black.

oh ok explains a lot of things...

[Dan...]

I've had enough of your bull**** you Aussie scumbag....you don't even know me, why are you stalking me and always accusing me of being racist?

Its true I don't know you at all. I am not stalking you either. This is the first time I have made reference to your racism in a fair while and it was in response to another poster's comment.

Also, I accuse you of being racist because you are, as is evidence by the fact that your original account was permabanned for constant racism.

[sL0]

I haven't read the 18 pages of this thread so if I'm repeating what someone else said, then sorry. I will say that the Tyson, under Rooney's supervision, would def beat Vitali, no doubt about it. He needed someone to help guide his ship. These are the plain facts. As soon as everyone that was responsible 4 keeping him in check were removed, King got ahold of him and everything went to shyt. Before the Douglas fight, Tyson was on a downward spiral anyway. He was ****in off, and Douglas caught him, plain and simple. If you ask me, he was such a gifted boxer that really threw a lot of his career away on some dumb shyt. He could've been that great with the right people behind him.

[boxing_great]

vitali fights like golota. stiff and robotic. and we all know what Tyson did to Golota.
Tyson ko Vitali 3 or 4th round, depending on how long Vitali's durable chin can hold up.

[beez721]

tyson in his prime is way to fast to vitali, vitali's competition has ******..this heavyweight era sucks, Tyson would knock vitali the **** out no question. vitali wouldn't land on Prime Tyson in a million years.

Tyson's 5'11 1/2, the official height

he couldnt kayo other big guys like bonecrusher smith,,tony tucker,,,buster douglass,, yet he'd destroy vitali,,lol

[BennyST]

were talking about boxing here dirk not you lame ass jokes, many ppl have said tyson wasnt prime in 1990, the fact is bowe was physical and mentally prepared for that fight, tyson wasnt.

Chris Byrd didn't "make Vitali quit" you moron

Vitali was dominating the fight until his arm started literally falling off

Vitali beats Byrd 99 times outta 100 and you know it

This thread has got some crackers in it! I never knew that Bowe even fought Tyson?

His arm was literally falling off was it? After he was dominating Byrd?

I love these type of threads. Tyson brings the best out in everyone, and he also brings the best people out of the closet.

[Motofan]

Douglas destroyed Tyson in 1990

Tyson was in his prime in 1990 you moron

Not to discredit the win, but Tyson was fat and undertrained for the fight because he didnt take Douglas seriously. Buster got Mike on the right night. Any other night and Mike finishes him off once he has him hurt. And Mike had Buster hurt that night.