Top 10 160-175lbs

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1. Joe Calzaghe- Undisputed, undefeated, 21 tilte defenses. Ring Magaazine Super Middle weight champ, Ring Magazine LH champ. doesn't have many fights left in him, But I have him #1 for now.

2. Kelly Pavlik- Undefeated, Undisputed Middleweight Champ. Sky is the limit for him, And if he KO's B-Hop then maybe he could be #1. Only 26 years old is a big positive for him also.

3. Bernard Hopkins- I know alot of people would disagree with me on this one, But the guy is a freak of nature, 43, and still a very good fighter. Gave Calzaghe everything he could handle. Some even thought Hopkins won. Something tells me he won't be #3 come October 18 though. Ring Magazine #2 LH.

4. Mikkel Kessler- Only lost was to Calzaghe in a great fight. He is the future of the SM division, but has to step up th elevel of competition.

5. Arthur Abraham- Undefeated, just KO'd Edison Miranda in an impressive manner, probably Pavlik biggest threat at MW. Great power, solid defense.

6. Chad Dawson- Undefeated LHW contender, probably has the brightest future at LHW. I think he beats Tarver next month no question. Chin is not the best , But has good skills, good workrate.

7. Jermain Taylor- only fighter he lost to was Pavlik. He beat Hopkins twice. People tend to forget about him for some reason. Still a very good fighter. Should beat Jeff Lacy with ease.

8. Antonio Tarver- I know Tarver is rated higher then Dawson, But he has beaten the better competition of the two. Talks better then he fight similar to Hopkins. Has had a good career, But I think this is his last big fight before hanging it up. His last fight with Clinton Woods was a borefest.

9. Lucian Bute- I know he hasn't really beatin anyboby, But I'm putting him at #9 cause he has LOADS of potential. In 5 years he could easily be #1 on my list. He could probably beat some guys on my list already.


10. Carl Froch- His biggest test to date is against Canada's Jean Pascal. has a great sneaky Uppercut that comes from nowhere. Time is against him he is 31, And a win aginst Pascal should catapolt him to a fight with Kessler or maybe a fight with Jermain Taylor.


Next in line... Felix Sturm,Glenn johnson, Anthony Mundine, Dennis Inkin,

I think it's crazy to Rank Calzaghe as the #1 LHW:

When he looked like crap in his only LHW fight, ever.



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[slicksouthpaw16]

Yes mate, we can all make up a big song and dance about everyone.

His title is still paper and he hasnt been tested against someone on Calzaghe's level.

40 year old Glen Johnson was his biggest test and I personally dont think he passed at all.

Anyone find it funny that Calzaghe is constantly shat on on this forum for fighting Hopkins and Jones - even though he's 37 himself.

Yet 26 year old Dawson fights two 40 year olds in a row and nothing gets said.

I got nothing against Dawson , I like him actually but Ive just never been a fan of double standards.

What you call a big song is facts. Yes Johnson was a top 3 light heavyweight( who Joe was accused of avoiding) yes Dawson only had about 23 fights when he beat Adamek( and easily at that) and yes he only had about 21 fights when he first fought and beat Eric Harding, who was the first to beat Tarver and gave a prime Jones all he could handle and was also rated top 10 when he and Chad Dawson fought. If you could tell me anyone prime that Calzaghe or Kessler beat when they only had 23 fights, then i will admit that i am wrong. He is young, talented, still in the learning process and is still making a name for himself.

On your point about the age. Tarver is still rated higher than Dawson and is also IBO/IBF champion so with a win over him will not only get him recognized as THE best light heavyweight, but he will also be a 3 time world champion. This is what Tarver brings.

[WLAD OWNS]

I think it's crazy to Rank Calzaghe as the #1 LHW:

When he looked like crap in his only LHW fight, ever.

Hopkins makes everyone look bad

Calzaghe looked sloppy, but he got the job done...he clearly beat a top p4p fighter/#1 LHW that was coming off big wins over p4p fighters Winky and Tarver.

Calzaghe is the undisputed champ at 168 and 175

[theghost#1]

I think it's crazy to Rank Calzaghe as the #1 LHW:

When he looked like crap in his only LHW fight, ever.

In order to be ranked #1 in the division you have to beat the #1 fighter in the division. Thats all.

[Sweet Pea 50]

[QUOTE=WLAD OWNS;4089062]Race has nothing to do with it

Kessler is the better fighter...he would brutally KO Dawson[/QUOTE]

Sure he would.
20k on Dawson over Tarver.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

What you call a big song is facts. Yes Johnson was a top 3 light heavyweight( who Joe was accused of avoiding) yes Dawson only had about 23 fights when he beat Adamek( and easily at that) and yes he only had about 21 fights when he first fought and beat Eric Harding, who was the first to beat Tarver and gave a prime Jones all he could handle and was also rated top 10 when he and Chad Dawson fought. If you could tell me anyone that Calzaghe or Kessler beat when they only had 23 fights, then i will admit that i am wrong. He is young, talented, still in the learning process and is still making a name for himself.

On your point about the age. Tarver is still rated higher than Dawson and is also IBO/IBF champion so with a win over him will not only get him recognized as THE best light heavyweight, but he will also be a 3 time world champion. This is what Tarver brings.

Glossed over facts. I seem to remember you once calling Eric Harding an elite fighter. Come on now......

Oh and I believe Calzaghe beat a dude called Eubank in his 23rd fight, who frankly is better than Harding, Adamek and Johnson combined.

Kessler fought Eric Lucas who lasted longer against an even Primer Jones than Harding.

Beyer, Andrade, Mundine and Siaca are all on par with Adamek.

Kessler fought Calzaghe as his test. Dawson fought Glen Johnson. In other words, Kessler took his driving test while Dawson still rode around on his bike with stabilisers.

Finally, Dawson will not be recognised as the best LHW till he beats Calzaghe.

[Sweet Pea 50]

Glossed over facts. I seem to remember you once calling Eric Harding an elite fighter. Come on now......

Oh and I believe Calzaghe beat a dude called Eubank in his 23rd fight, who frankly is better than Harding, Adamek and Johnson combined.

Kessler fought Eric Lucas who lasted longer against an even Primer Jones than Harding.

Beyer, Andrade, Mundine and Siaca are all on par with Adamek.

Kessler fought Calzaghe as his test. Dawson fought Glen Johnson. In other words, Kessler took his driving test while Dawson still rode around on his bike with stabilisers.

Finally, Dawson will not be recognised as the best LHW till he beats Calzaghe.

Zags isn't getting past RJJ.
Yeah, I said it.

[WLAD OWNS]

Sure he would.
20k on Dawson over Tarver.

Zags isn't getting past RJJ.
Yeah, I said it.

I already got 25K on old man Tarver

do you wanna bet points on Calzaghe/Jones??

[Sweet Pea 50]

I already got 25K on old man Tarver

do you wanna bet points on Calzaghe/Jones??

Sure. I got 20k on RJJ.

[WLAD OWNS]

Sure. I got 20k on RJJ.

Done Deal....sig it up!