The Return of Vitali Klitschko!

[joseph5620]

You're saying he's a "plodding European heavyweight" age won't make any difference, so to DISCREDIT him if he wins in his return. [/QUOTE]

Go back and read my post. I never even mentioned that he was European. That has nothing to do with it. And when did I say his age would not be a factor? I would never say something that ignorant. His age is one of the only reasons I'm hesitant to bet on him. He's a much better fighter than Peter. But's he's an old fighter and inactive. Maybe some people look at it that way, but I'm not one of them. If he wins I'll give him all of the credit he deserves. From my perspective, Vitali is a big, strong heavyweight who moves forward and punishes his opponents. Plodding is not a stereotype or necessarily a bad thing to me. I think even Joe Louis was plodding at times. I could go on and on. This is not an Eastern European thing. It's more of a big heavyweight thing. Most are plodding no matter where they're from.

[!!Captain]

Even though I am betting on him heavily and want to see this fight more than any other fight in the HW division today, I still have that stinking feeling that he will injure himself again and call off the fight. If he won't - Peter is going down.

[Randall_Hopkirk]

Even though I am betting on him heavily and want to see this fight more than any other fight in the HW division today, I still have that stinking feeling that he will injure himself again and call off the fight. If he won't - Peter is going down.

I like your loyalty but inactivity isn't something to be disregarded easily. He may beat Robert Hawkins or Owen Beck but not a guy like Peter. The Vitali of 2004 would have struggled with Peter let alone the 2008 watered down version.

[!!Captain]

I like your loyalty but inactivity isn't something to be disregarded easily. He may beat Robert Hawkins or Owen Beck but not a guy like Peter. The Vitali of 2004 would have struggled with Peter let alone the 2008 watered down version.

Wlad struggled with Peter back in 2005 but still won. I think Vitali would make it seem like Williams fight with Peter, Peter can **** but that was never a problem with Vitali, he likes to mix it up, it makes him pissed and he wants to **** the opponent up even more. The biggest difference between him and Wlad is that Vitali can get angry and wants to hurt another guy, Wlad is always playing a chess game out there.

[deemo]

the main difference between wlad and vitali is vitali can take a hell of a shot.

[ALT-Assassin]

You're saying he's a "plodding European heavyweight" age won't make any difference, so to DISCREDIT him if he wins in his return.

Go back and read my post. I never even mentioned that he was European. That has nothing to do with it. And when did I say his age would not be a factor? I would never say something that ignorant. His age is one of the only reasons I'm hesitant to bet on him. He's a much better fighter than Peter. But's he's an old fighter and inactive. Maybe some people look at it that way, but I'm not one of them. If he wins I'll give him all of the credit he deserves. From my perspective, Vitali is a big, strong heavyweight who moves forward and punishes his opponents. Plodding is not a stereotype or necessarily a bad thing to me. I think even Joe Louis was plodding at times. I could go on and on. This is not an Eastern European thing. It's more of a big heavyweight thing. Most are plodding no matter where they're from.[/QUOTE]

Tunney is very paranoid when it comes to Eastern Europeans. He thinks anyone who says anything reemotly negative about the fighter has a hidden agenda. The funny thing is Tunney himself looks for anyway to discredit an accomplished fighter while he makes excuses for his "own fighters". Check out youtube and go search for Klitschko videos. You will find some posters in the comment sections that talk complete nonsense like he does on these boards. They are Tunney and his Alts.

[The Hammer]

Vitali Klitschko is the same age Joe Louis was when Rocky Marciano knocked him out.

Peter is close to the same age Rocky was.

[BattlingNelson]

Vitali Klitschko is the same age Joe Louis was when Rocky Marciano knocked him out.

Peter is close to the same age Rocky was.

Louis however, fought Rocky in the 10th fight of his comeback. This is Vitali's first.

[The Hammer]

Louis however, fought Rocky in the 10th fight of his comeback. This is Vitali's first.

Yes, so he not only has an age disadvantage, also there's no way he's going to be as sharp after four years of inactivity. Will his punches still be as quick and accurate as they were against Johnson, Sanders and Williams?

But if he's 50% as good as he used to be, he'll defeat Peter.

[BattlingNelson]

Yes, so he not only has an age disadvantage, also there's no way he's going to be as sharp after four years of inactivity. Will his punches still be as quick and accurate as they were against Johnson, Sanders and Williams?

But if he's 50% as good as he used to be, he'll defeat Peter.

Vitali has given himself a huge challenge. No question about it. Bigger challenge than Ali fighting Quarry and Louis fighting Ezzard Charles.