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  • Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
    i agree wit everything you said, except jones being superior to hopkins in accuracy and timing. jones is younger and faster than hopkins at this point. so where hopkins didn't have the speed to get off on joe, rjj will.

    timing is a different story b/c rjj will also get hit alot more than hopkins did...........
    Your opinion is well taken. I would possibly agree about the Hopkins-Jones contrast, but Jones has proven to be superior when they fought, even if it was before either of their real primes. I think Jones will get hit more than B-hop, but only on the arms if he does. Joe will be a little more conservative knowing one punch would be check mate with Roy. We will see in November. I really can't wait. Between the Vitali-Peter, Tarver-Dawson, Hatton-Mallignagi and this fight, I am salivating for the fall.

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    • Originally posted by abadger View Post
      I think you take a dim view of Kessler and a favourable one of Taylor, whereas with me it is the other way around! I think Kessler is one of the most talented orthodox boxers I've seen, whereas I see taylor much more as a 'quite good at most things but not brilliant' kind of a guy. Kessler has major weapons that work for him, whereas I'm really not sure that Taylor has something similar.
      Seriously, do you not realize that any championship-level boxer is going to look great against decidedly mediocre fighters like Andrade, Beyer, et al? It is EXPECTED of them. What really separates the men from the boys is facing truly elite competition. Kessler has done it once, and it looked like he was out of place. Taylor, whether or not you agree with the official scores of the two Hopkins fights or the Winky bout, PROVED that he BELONGED in the ring with those types of guys.

      And Taylor is MUCH, MUCH faster than Kess. End of story.

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      • Originally posted by Steel Town USA View Post
        Seriously, do you not realize that any championship-level boxer is going to look great against decidedly mediocre fighters like Andrade, Beyer, et al? It is EXPECTED of them. What really separates the men from the boys is facing truly elite competition. Kessler has done it once, and it looked like he was out of place. Taylor, whether or not you agree with the official scores of the two Hopkins fights or the Winky bout, PROVED that he BELONGED in the ring with those types of guys.

        And Taylor is MUCH, MUCH faster than Kess. End of story.
        good post.

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        • Originally posted by Melly-Mel View Post
          good post.
          Thanks man. When I read some of these posts, it seems like I'm in an alternate universe. Like Will Ferrell said in Zoolander: "I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here people!"

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          • Originally posted by Steel Town USA View Post
            Seriously, do you not realize that any championship-level boxer is going to look great against decidedly mediocre fighters like Andrade, Beyer, et al? It is EXPECTED of them. What really separates the men from the boys is facing truly elite competition. Kessler has done it once, and it looked like he was out of place. Taylor, whether or not you agree with the official scores of the two Hopkins fights or the Winky bout, PROVED that he BELONGED in the ring with those types of guys.

            And Taylor is MUCH, MUCH faster than Kess. End of story.
            Nicely done.

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            • Originally posted by Steel Town USA View Post
              Thanks man. When I read some of these posts, it seems like I'm in an alternate universe. Like Will Ferrell said in Zoolander: "I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here people!"
              hahaha, i feel ya man. green k sent.

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              • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                Im moving to Japan so I can become Japanese.
                Lennox Lewis is Canadian. What difference does it make that he is born in Britain?

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                • Originally posted by kswizzy99 View Post
                  Lennox Lewis is Canadian. What difference does it make that he is born in Britain?
                  I agree. Kelly Pavlik is afro-carribean too.

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                  • Whatever way you look at it, Joe is ducking Pavlik.

                    Whether it's because it's too much of a risk at this stage of his career or he feels he is declining, he doesn't want to fight Pavlik.

                    You may feel it's justfied. You may, unlike myself, think that he's earned the right to retire after the RJJ fight. But you simply cannot deny that he is ducking Pavlik.

                    If he was good enough to fight Joe as a prospect, he is definitely good enough to fights as a champion.

                    Unfortunately, I cannot see it happening. Joe has always taken the easy route, and it was only when faced with the stark reality that he had a poor resume, did he seek out challenges like Lacy, Kessler and Hopkins. Now he has those, and probably RJJ, he is not going to want Pavlik.

                    And you know what the funny thing is?

                    No-one can even blame Frank Warren for this fight not happening.

                    But hey, I guess he "deserves" to make money and then call it a day after the RJJ fight. I mean, that's what boxing's all about, right? Seeing your favourite fighter make tons of money, only taking the fights that make business sense. I don't know why the rest of us want to see match-ups between the best.

                    What are we thinking?

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                    • Taylor and Kessler are proven. I'd take Kessler to beat Taylor. Taylor has a good shot to out box Kessler, but I think Kessler's size and big right hand would eventually catch up to Taylor.

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