Lets compare Floyd Mayweather with Pernell Whitaker

[HAVISJ]

I think t would be a great fight. I think in the later rounds Mayweather would try to stalk Pea coming foward with his hands high, like he did in the Judah fight. I dont think Pea would come into this fight clowing like he did in many others.

[wmute]

Floyd is terrible against southpaws? where the hell did people get the idea from?

the Corley or Mitchell fight? because two flush punches were landed on him counting BOTH fights?

The Judah fight? when he turned the aggressor, and walked him down, even if Judah had advantages in size, power, and speed?

Seriously...

[El Dominicano]

Larry watch how I compared them.

[larryx]

Larry watch how I compared them.

i feel you but how can you say anyones accuracy is better than floyds??? now pernell did have a great jab true that.they both have great speed and footwork but i just think floyd edges him a bit...but everyone is entitled to their opinion

[larryx]

Who had the better stuff.

Jab: Pernell Whitaker

Power: Floyd Mayweather

Chin: DRAW

Accuracy: Pernell Whitaker

Stamina: Very hard to pick Stamina becuz I've seen the Jose Luis Ramirez fight and Pernell didn't get tired at all! He was extremely active in that fight and looked like a 15 round fighter BUT in some cases later in Pernell Whitaker's career he would get tired. I'm leaning towards Floyd Mayweather.

Body Puncher: Mayweather is an underated body puncher and has a good jab to the body...which has been a very effective punch threw out his career. The only reason I'm going with Pernell Whitaker is becuz Pernell would turn vicious for a couple of seconds and throw some wicked hooks to the body. Like he'd bounce around STOP then go Mexican Style on you. He'd do this often and that is why he was able to slow down his opponents.

Combinations: Pernell Whitaker

Footwork: Simply a DRAW.

Better fighter when they're back is against the rope: Pernell Whitaker would lay on the ropes, smile at you, make you miss and run your stamina. The problem I had with him is that he didn't always counter in these situations. Floyd Mayweather would counter and just landed the much better punches when put in that kind of situation.

Overall Defense: I'd have to say a DRAW.

I think Pernell had the better stuff but does that mean he'll beat Mayweather NO! I still don't know who'd win between the two.

So would you agree with this??

but h2h i just think floyd would be to strong and to ring smart fot pete but it would be fight of the century!!!! good point though

[El Dominicano]

i feel you but how can you say anyones accuracy is better than floyds??? now pernell did have a great jab true that.they both have great speed and footwork but i just think floyd edges him a bit...but everyone is entitled to their opinion

Pernell's accuracy is SLIGHTLY better. Hmmm maybe I should have said that. Pernell would hit you whenever the hell he wanted...thats what I learned from watching Pernell Whitaker fight.

[larryx]

Pernell's accuracy is SLIGHTLY better. Hmmm maybe I should have said that. Pernell would hit you whenever the hell he wanted...thats what I learned from watching Pernell Whitaker fight.

yea pete was great!!!! his jab was a-1////

[El Dominicano]

Perfect timing for this topic. Both fighters are two of my all time favorites along with Jones and Leonard. Over the past three days I watched nearly every single Pernell Whitaker fight in one of the most amazing marathons. I re-learned just how amazing Sweet Pea really was. You can never grasp everything to it's fullest until you've seen every ounce of a fighters career.

His first "loss" to Jose Luis Ramirez was a flat out joke. I hadn't seen it it years till just the other day and it made me bust out laughing. But he didn't complain and whooped that ass a second time around. The draw against Julio Cesar Chavez was pathetic. After 12 rounds of making Chavez look bad, they rob him of the honor of being the first man to defeat the legend. Now on to the DLH fight, honestly I watched that earlier today and it was a very close fight. I don't think either of them won decisively. I had it a draw and could see 1-2 points in favor of either fighter depending on what you're looking for. But the score card was bogus and if anything a no where near prime Whitaker succeeded in making the youngin look real bad for the first time in his career. Flashes of the Whitaker of old in that fight for sure.

Jab: Pernell Whitaker with a doubt. Floyd like Roy never bothered much with the jab since they were both so gifted to get away without using on. Floyd threw right hand leads like nobody's business and would just lunge in and out with ease. Pernell lived by the jab and was always the most impressive when he was throwing it to set everything up.

Power: Floyd Mayweather gets this without thinking twice. Pernell wasn't much of a finisher outside of a few early knockouts and almost killing Diosbelys Hurtado in a come back victory damn near knocking him outside of the ring with a massive amount of left hands. He was a distance man and was always ready for 12 solid rounds. Floyd on the other hand has more pop than often credited for. Of course he's not going to KO huge welterweights double his size and guys like Carlos Baldomir who wouldn't even feel a sledgehammer. But in the lower weights he used and abused most guys and imposed his will. He wasn't a one punch artist, but would suffocate you with barrages and make the ref step in a lot of the time. Other times it would just be the accumulation of punches that would leave his man with nothing left to do but drop. There is simply no comparison in terms of power.

Chin: DRAW? Both guys have been hit flush every once and a while. In my opinion Floyd has shown to take a punch better. However, he didn't put himself in danger to be hit as much as Pernell did towards the middle/late part of his career. Honestly, Pernell was dropped like 11 of so times in his career, though most were while his was ducking down or just off balance. He would normally get up right away and continue right where he left off. Floyd had quite a few fights in the lighter weights where he looked to exchange (people forget) during the time period where Roger took over and wanted to be more exciting. He sure as hell was in my opinion. Both guys have a pretty damn good chin. Sweet Pea's was tested on a more consistent basis, but Mayweather always responded very well and would punch you back right away.

Accuracy: I have no idea what so ever on this one. Both are amazingly precise.

Stamina: I've never seen either tired before. There were a few fights where Whitaker didn't come in the greatest of shape, but even then he was there punching till the end of the 12th round. Floyd has always come into every fight in amazing shape and I've never even seen him breathe heavy. Rather tied here, but I'll go with Floyd just on a conditioning level.

Body Puncher: I agree that Mayweather is an underrated body puncher. They really start to add up when he throws them straight down the pipe. But Pernell throws some that make he down right cringe. You could literally feel it sometimes. Floyd has the edge in power again, but Pernell is better overall.

Combinations: Both guys started throwing less and less combinations when they went up in weight. I'm giving the nod to Whitaker because he was a bit more busy but bother were quite similar. When I'm watching either of them I see flashes of the other when they're throwing combinations.

Footwork: I'll say Floyd since he's been more consistent. Pernell didn't move around much anymore and became more of a flat footed slugger. Sometimes he would trip himself up thought by trying to do a little to much. Floyd is in a little bit more control and uses it a little better. But a draw might be in order here.

Better fighter when they're back is against the rope: Floyd Mayweather hands down. He could live on the ropes all night and make you pay. Pernell didn't really lay on the ropes too much. The second he got there he would twirl both himself and his opponent around. Usually followed up by an ass slap lol. So we don't really have much to go by. Mayweather on the other hand is insane on the ropes. He'd often just make the other guy punch himself out and take advantage later on. The shoulder roll to ****ing perfection.

Overall Defense: I'd agree that it's more of a draw. Pernell was better and moving around his upper body and Floyd was better at using his legs. But that's while standing in the middle of the ring. As said before, Floyd was a wizard at countering off the ropes.

I was thinking a lot over the past few days as to who would have won if both fought in their prime. The answer? I have no god damn clue. I can say this much though. Floyd Mayweather has never fought anyone like Pernell Whitaker and Pernel Whitaker has never fought anyone like Floyd Mayweather. I'd pay to have a time machine in order to set this one up. But I'd like to add one thing that might make me lean just slightly in favor of Mayweather. He has the edge when it comes to staying calm and sticking to the game plan. But both were fantastic at reading the opponent and switching gears when need be.

Larry Hisoka one of my friends did a GREAT job comparing them. We didn't agree all the way but you might lean towards his.

[Pullcounter]

Who had the better stuff.

Jab: Pernell Whitaker

Power: Floyd Mayweather

Chin: DRAW

Accuracy: Pernell Whitaker accuracy was slightly better.

Stamina: Very hard to pick Stamina becuz I've seen the Jose Luis Ramirez fight and Pernell didn't get tired at all! He was extremely active in that fight and looked like a 15 round fighter BUT in some cases later in Pernell Whitaker's career he would get tired. I'm leaning towards Floyd Mayweather.

Body Puncher: Mayweather is an underated body puncher and has a good jab to the body...which has been a very effective punch threw out his career. The only reason I'm going with Pernell Whitaker is becuz Pernell would turn vicious for a couple of seconds and throw some wicked hooks to the body. Like he'd bounce around STOP then go Mexican Style on you. He'd do this often and that is why he was able to slow down his opponents.

Combinations: Pernell Whitaker

Footwork: Simply a DRAW.

Better fighter when they're back is against the rope: Pernell Whitaker would lay on the ropes, smile at you, make you miss and run your stamina. The problem I had with him is that he didn't always counter in these situations. Floyd Mayweather would counter and just landed the much better punches when put in that kind of situation.

Overall Defense: I'd have to say a DRAW.

I think Pernell had the better stuff but does that mean he'll beat Mayweather NO! I still don't know who'd win between the two.

So would you agree with this??

whitaker let his hands go more and was a little flashier.

floyd is always tight with the defense, not giving any openings.

on the whole floyd is probably physically stronger than whitaker.

[run_for_your_effing_life]

to bad zab doesnt have chin and defence he would be better then pea