What will have MORE Eminent Drawing Power: Pac vs.Oscar or Oscar vs. FLOYD

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  • Horus
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    #51
    Originally posted by Ryn0
    No. Hatton's english fanbase is bigger than Pacquiao's it massive. 20000 people flying across to see one guy fight for 45 minutes (turned out to be less) that's dedication. Wherever Hatton fights, whoever he fights he is going to sell.
    So you are saying

    Oscar de La Hoya the biggest American draw in boxing.
    vs.
    Manny Pacquaio
    ( an international star) who has been on 5 successful ppv. over 350,000 buys

    Wont do better than

    Floyd Mayweather supposedly not no where near the draw Oscar is.
    vs
    Ricky Hatton (International Star) who has never been on ppv before Floyd Mayweather

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    • shadeyfizzle
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      #52
      Originally posted by Horus
      So if Floyd Fought Oscar in Mexico,London,South Africa,China, any Major Country besides America it wouldnt be a hit?

      How can you proved that...?

      Mayweather vs. Hatton
      Broke every boxing record there was in the United Kingdom

      Oscar vs. Floyd
      Sold $165 million worldwide. And in the United States they only sold $134.4 million

      So how can you prove your Claims????
      How can you disprove my claim? Like I said. 8 month hype machine, A superbowl commercial, for a world title, it was supposed 2 be the fight that would save boxing remember??

      Pac vs DLH aint foolin noone though. its a mismatch and it aint saving ****

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      • Horus
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        #53
        Originally posted by Ryn0
        That only $30 million outside the US. That is pretty poor. It obvious that the PPV would do well (because the Americans can still watch it) but the gate would be poor there simply aren't enough Americans willing to fly over and watch. Even if you put it in London the British don't care all that much for De La Hoya. When I lived there no one knew who Oscar De La Hoya was or who Mayweather was until Hatton.
        30 Million dollars. from Countries outside of the US is Massive
        where the price was dirt cheap. not at @ 54.95 like in the US

        Once again How can you prove your Claims?

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        • Ryn0
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          #54
          Originally posted by Horus
          So you are saying

          Oscar de La Hoya the biggest American draw in boxing.
          vs.
          Manny Pacquaio
          ( an international star) who has been on 5 successful ppv. over 350,000 buys

          Wont do better than

          Floyd Mayweather supposedly not no where near the draw Oscar is.
          vs
          Ricky Hatton (International Star) who has never been on ppv before Floyd Mayweather
          There no point debating it. Don't answer a question with a question. Hatton is guranteed to sell because his fanbase is loyal they are Hatton fans not boxing fans. I never said Floyd was not where near the Draw Oscar is but he isn't quite the draw yet. He has marketed himself well and people tune in because they want to see him lose but he hasn't got a fanbase large enough. If you put Floyd in against Forbes or Lazcano (midday) he wouldn't do as well as either fighter did at the time. Hatton has the english fanbase, Oscar has the casual fanbase. Pacquiao has been successful in 5 PPVs all against Mexican legends why is that? because of the rivalry between Pacquiao & Mexicans and because Barrera, Morales and JMM can all do very well against most opponents on PPV anyway.

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          • Horus
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            #55
            Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
            How can you disprove my claim? Like I said. 8 month hype machine, A superbowl commercial, for a world title, it was supposed 2 be the fight that would save boxing remember??

            Pac vs DLH aint foolin noone though. its a mismatch and it aint saving ****
            How can you disprove my claim?


            Mayweather vs. Hatton
            Broke every boxing record there was in the United Kingdom

            So if Mayweather Hatton broke every sinlge record in the United Kingdom all the way from the United States, you mean to tell me they couldnt do that in Europe,China,South Africa,etc....?


            Oscar vs. Floyd
            Sold $165 million worldwide.


            So once again How can you prove your Claims..?

            That their fight would sell outside the US, If they are breaking records outside the US...?

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            • Left Hook Tua
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              #56
              lol

              Ryno , Shadey.....i think we're wasting our time here. No point in arguing. Just let the thread die. Let him argue with the Floyd haters.

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              • Ryn0
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                #57
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                lol

                Ryno , Shadey.....i think we're wasting our time here. No point in arguing. Just let the thread die. Let him argue with the Floyd haters.
                Yea there isn't really any point were just beating a dead horse

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                • Clegg
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Horus
                  Mayweather vs. Hatton
                  Broke every boxing record there was in the United Kingdom
                  Such as?

                  It certainly didn't have the most viewers. Boxing over here used to be on national TV and have 10+ million viewers. Frank Bruno got 18 million viewers when he fought Joe Bugner, and Bugner was about 58 at the time.

                  How many watched Hatton-Mayweather live? I would be surprised if it was over 360,000 (ie. 2% of the amount that watched Bruno).

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                  • Silencers
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                    #59
                    It'll probably do better than Mayweather-Hatton.

                    I think it'll sell about the same amount as Wrestlemania or even a little more.

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                    • Horus
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Ryn0
                      There no point debating it. Don't answer a question with a question. Hatton is guranteed to sell because his fanbase is loyal they are Hatton fans not boxing fans. I never said Floyd was not where near the Draw Oscar is but he isn't quite the draw yet. He has marketed himself well and people tune in because they want to see him lose but he hasn't got a fanbase large enough. If you put Floyd in against Forbes or Lazcano (midday) he wouldn't do as well as either fighter did at the time. Hatton has the english fanbase, Oscar has the casual fanbase. Pacquiao has been successful in 5 PPVs all against Mexican legends why is that? because of the rivalry between Pacquiao & Mexicans and because Barrera, Morales and JMM can all do very well against most opponents on PPV anyway.
                      If you put Floyd in against Forbes or Lazcano

                      Both Fights who be on HBO, unlike Hatton.
                      and it would be free just like De La Hoya.


                      Ryno please answer this direct Question:
                      Do you think Hatton is a bigger PPV draw than Manny Pacquaio..?

                      If so why has Hatton only been in 1 PPV?

                      Hatton could have fought TYZU on ppv?

                      HBO wouldn't even cover Hatton vs Lazcano for free...! So what does that tell you..?

                      I guarantee you Pacquaio vs. Juan Lazcano would have been on HBO...
                      I dont even have to bring up Floyd...
                      Because Floyd fought Henry Bruseles on HBO...

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