What will have MORE Eminent Drawing Power: Pac vs.Oscar or Oscar vs. FLOYD

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  • Ryn0
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    #41
    Originally posted by Horus
    So Ryn0 what you are telling me is pacquaio doesn't have a casual audience now?

    NEW NIKE COMMERICAL

    Ask a regular person on the street. Who is Manny Pacquiao 90% of people won't be able to answer.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Horus
      So you are Telling Me Outside of America:

      Pacquaio vs. De la Hoya would do $134.4 million domestically and $165 million worldwide, and a record $19 million live gate.????
      Im saying that however well Pac vs DLH will do dec 6. You could have placed the same event anywhere else in the world and do just as well and have the same ratio cheering section 4 each fighter.

      Floyd vs DLH could be done in the same venue as Ali Foreman and it doesnt make tenth what it did in vegas and there wouldn't be a single soul screaming floyd bumaye

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        #43
        Originally posted by Horus
        So by your vote in the Poll, and your Comments..

        I am guessing you are willing to bet That Oscar vs. Pacquaio
        will do better than Oscar vs. Floyd..???


        Dont ***** Out..!
        nah...... i think manny-oscar will only do about 1 million or so.

        there's too many factors going against people buying this ppv.

        no title at stake. possibly non-competitive. size difference. anger at manny not fighting another 135 beltholder. anger at oscar for not fighting marg.

        i just voted against popular opinion.

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        • Horus
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          #44
          Originally posted by Ryn0
          He's saying if you took Floyd-De La Hoya outside of America the live gate would be horrible. Whereas if you took Pacquiao-Oscar outside of America it would still do well (not great)

          And Oscar is a bigger draw than Mayweather that is undisputable. Mayweather has been in two big PPV fights with two big draws. Oscar has been in a dozen.
          Ok for discussion sake.

          Will Oscar vs. Pacquaio

          do

          Better than Mayweather vs. Hatton???

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            #45
            Originally posted by Ryn0
            Ask a regular person on the street. Who is Manny Pacquiao 90% of people won't be able to answer.
            most americans couldn't name a single prime boxer right now. if you ask them to name a boxer they'll say tyson or ali or something.

            besides that nike commercial never aired in the u.s. i think.

            that's asia nike. i doubt pacquiao was in any nike commercial in the u.s. at least i haven't seen it.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Horus
              Ok for discussion sake.

              Will Oscar vs. Pacquaio

              do

              Better than Mayweather vs. Hatton???
              No. Hatton's english fanbase is bigger than Pacquiao's it massive. 20000 people flying across to see one guy fight for 45 minutes (turned out to be less) that's dedication. Wherever Hatton fights, whoever he fights he is going to sell.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Horus
                Ok for discussion sake.

                Will Oscar vs. Pacquaio

                do

                Better than Mayweather vs. Hatton???
                You're still not going about it the right way but at least you're getting reasonable. If Pac beats DLH and Hatton beats Malignaggi guaranteed Pac vs Hatton does better than Floyd vs Hatton. And that fight wont even be in the US

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                  Im saying that however well Pac vs DLH will do dec 6. You could have placed the same event anywhere else in the world and do just as well and have the same ratio cheering section 4 each fighter.

                  Floyd vs DLH could be done in the same venue as Ali Foreman and it doesnt make tenth what it did in vegas and there wouldn't be a single soul screaming floyd bumaye
                  So if Floyd Fought Oscar in Mexico,London,South Africa,China, any Major Country besides America it wouldnt be a hit?

                  How can you proved that...?

                  Mayweather vs. Hatton
                  Broke every boxing record there was in the United Kingdom

                  Oscar vs. Floyd
                  Sold $165 million worldwide. And in the United States they only sold $134.4 million

                  So how can you prove your Claims????

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Ryn0
                    No. Hatton's english fanbase is bigger than Pacquiao's it massive. 20000 people flying across to see one guy fight for 45 minutes (turned out to be less) that's dedication. Wherever Hatton fights, whoever he fights he is going to sell.
                    i wouldn't say hatton's fanbase is more massive.

                    they just have the money to do that. philippines has double the population of the u.k. but not a lot of people have the money to travel to the u.s. just to watch 1 fight.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Horus
                      So if Floyd Fought Oscar in Mexico,London,South Africa,China, any Major Country besides America it wouldnt be a hit?

                      How can you proved that...?

                      Mayweather vs. Hatton
                      Broke every boxing record there was in the United Kingdom

                      Oscar vs. Floyd
                      Sold $165 million worldwide. And in the United States they only sold $134.4 million

                      So how can you prove your Claims????
                      That only $30 million outside the US. That is pretty poor. It obvious that the PPV would do well (because the Americans can still watch it) but the gate would be poor there simply aren't enough Americans willing to fly over and watch. Even if you put it in London the British don't care all that much for De La Hoya. When I lived there no one knew who Oscar De La Hoya was or who Mayweather was until Hatton.

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