If Calzaghe could beat Hopkins by just slapping

[slicksouthpaw16]

What is undebatable is that Calzaghe has had the better career.

Don't bother disagreeing because you'll look like an idiot. Hopkins struggled with anyone his own size (except Tarver), lost two to Jermain Taylor, and only got famous in the first place for beating De La Hoya.

Joe fought world champs for ten years and always won. Hopkins left the ring seven times without victory

Hopkins fought the better competition, its as simple as that. You can't say that Calzaghe is the greater fighter because he is unbeaten when Hopkins fought better opponents and has fought pound for pound star quality fighter. Kessler and Lacy are the only two highly ranked young fighters that Calzaghe has beaten. What are they compared to an unbeaten Felix Trinidad, Winky Wright, Antonio Tarver, De La Hoya, an unbeaten Glen Johnson ect? Nothing. Thats like saying Marciano is greater than Ali because he retired unbeaten, when Ali fought in a much stronger division. Hopkins will definitely be known as the greater fighter.

Hopkins fought better fighters period. If Calzaghe fought all those fighter's he'd have lost. The only good name on his resume is Hopkins and he was 43, AND B-HOP pretty much beat him. Put him in his 30's, double the punches - increase the speed and there you have it. Calzaghe on the other hand looked like he always did only a bit less power. The thing is, when Zaghe had power he wasn't much of a boxer..leaving his face open and all.

Shockingly good post. You can actually post well when you choose to and i mean no offense.

[kayjay]

Hopkins fought better fighters period. If Calzaghe fought all those fighter's he'd have lost. The only good name on his resume is Hopkins and he was 43, AND B-HOP pretty much beat him. Put him in his 30's, double the punches - increase the speed and there you have it. Calzaghe on the other hand looked like he always did only a bit less power. The thing is, when Zaghe had power he wasn't much of a boxer..leaving his face open and all.

Calzaghe would take a punch to land three. Hopkins is afraid of getting hit. He keeps his chin tucked, but he is afraid to engage.

Even when he was younger he'd shy from an even exchange. A young Joe threw too many punches, too hard, from too many angles.

And when you say Hop is the only good fighter Joe faced, you make it clear you don't know that much. If it's not on HBO you don't watch, eh?

[kayjay]

Hopkins fought the better competition, its as simple as that. You can't say that Calzaghe is the greater fighter because he is unbeaten when Hopkins fought better opponents and has fought pound for pound star quality fighter. Kessler and Lacy are the only two highly ranked young fighters that Calzaghe has beaten. What are they compared to an unbeaten Felix Trinidad, Winky Wright, Antonio Tarver, De La Hoya ect? Nothing.

Wright was sixteen pounds above the only division he was ever champ of.

Oscar nine pounds.

Don't be fooled by names. These were not big wins

[BKM-]

What is undebatable is that Calzaghe has had the better career.

Don't bother disagreeing because you'll look like an idiot. Hopkins struggled with anyone his own size (except Tarver), lost two to Jermain Taylor, and only got famous in the first place for beating De La Hoya.

Joe fought world champs for ten years and always won. Hopkins left the ring seven times without victory

Good job completely changing the subject and ignoring every point that had to do with the topic at hand.

Joe is the smarter fighter, and the ballsier fighter. Hopkins landed ONE tricky punch in the first round, and looked for it the rest of the fight. Joe was one step ahead on every adjustment.

Giampa and Lederman gave Hopkins three rounds, but there were no clear Hopkins rounds after the first. Joe won at least seven clean rounds. You have to give every round to Hopkins just to make it sound close. Eleven rounds to Joe is a perfectly reasonable score

please, you're talking to me here. You can stop the sarcasm, trolling or whatever it is you enjoy doing.

If you look at the fight without bias, it's either a draw or close W for either guys. This was the kind of fight that people score diffirently. A lot of people are obviously influenced by the biased commentary, crowd cheering for every slap that hits air or nothing significant, Joe lifting up his hand after some rounds, and pure dislike of Hopkins because of things like white boy comments which seemingly still bother you and others.

I scored the fight 115-113 or 114-113 for Hopkins every time I watched it. I actually made elaborations on every round on notes, I wish I could find those because I can't remember everything exactly. He landed better punches troughout the fight, he knocked him down, at times gave him a boxing lesson etc. Be serious now. There's no way Calzaghe won so dominantly.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Wright was sixteen pounds above the only division he was ever champ of.

Oscar nine pounds.

Don't be fooled by names. These were not big wins

At least Hopkins fought who was around his weight class. You fail to mention the names that he actually did beat. He was the first to beat Glen Johnson, the first to beat Trinidad(who had a middleweight title and won it by knocked out against a credible opponent in William Joppy) he beat Tarver who was the ring magazine light heavyweight champion and other good opponents. Oscar also had a title at middlweight and Joppy was a former champion. Please size up Calzaghe resume and show me where he did anything great? He is a good fighter but he simply did not take risks.

[kayjay]

There's no way Calzaghe won so dominantly.

Giampa and Lederman had it 9-3. I think they were generous in giving Hop two extra rounds. Maybe it's ok to give him one.

He never did enough to convincingly win a round; what he did successfully was sometimes negate Joe's work, but you can't take a round on defense alone.

He wants to land one soft potshot and walk to his right, half turned around the rest of the time.

[ИATAS]

nice to see hopkins' #1 hater postin up in this thread. Nicely done kayjay, your hate is unmatched, feel proud.

[Clegg]

I have to admit, I find it pretty amusing reading Calzaghe haters fantasize about him losing in a non-existent match-up.

Seriously, these guys seem to react to the prospect of Calzaghe suffering defeat in the same way that I react to the prospect of having sex with Keeley Hazell, including the raging hard-on.

The reality is that neither event will ever take place, so I just hope that your imagination is as good as mine, because it's all you're gonna get.

[kayjay]

nice to see hopkins' #1 hater postin up in this thread. Nicely done kayjay, you're hate is unmatched, feel proud.

You think Hopkins is cool because of his ****** image.

I know he's as phony as a win over Winky at LHW

[kayjay]

Please size up Calzaghe resume a

You're ok with me slick, so I'm not going to give you a hard time. But "sizing up resumes" is for no0bs. I don't play that game