If Calzaghe could beat Hopkins by just slapping

[slicksouthpaw16]

There are people who make lists, but those lists are marketing tools that have nothing to do with boxing.

You refer to "the" list, as if there were a list that represented "fact."

I'm on a different level. You may get here, but right now you're repeating child's arguments, so I don't engage them

Its the official ring magazine pound for pound list, which is indeed facts to where the fighters currently rank in world. You're on a different level when you don't even bother to debate or size up resumes and talk up a fighter that has not only accomplished less but didn't take risks? All you do is talk about what Hopkins didn't do and downgrade his resume. If you are on another level then you would have looked at it from both sides. No offense.

[kayjay]

On p4p:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205060&highlight=thing

On scoring, which will help you score Hopkins-Calzaghe the right way (117-110 for Joe):

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197646&highlight=mistakes

[kayjay]

Its the official ring magazine pound for pound list, which is indeed facts to where the fighters currently rank in world. You're on a different level when you don't even bother to debate or size up resumes? All you do is talk about what Hopkins didn't do and downgrade his resume. If you are on another level then you would have looked at it from both sides. No offense.

There is nothing "official" or "factual" about the ring list. That is a fairy tale. Read my thread linked in the above post.

People who count that list for anything are eo ipso not worth discussing boxing with

[kayjay]

I have read both threads. Both are a very good and polished product of the discussions we had in TC.

I didn't mean to post them for you

[slicksouthpaw16]

Its just laughable how people that doesn't want to face facts act like pound for pound list and actual rating doesn't matter anymore. I guess its all they have to work with.

[Clegg]

If you are on another level then you would have looked at it from both sides. No offense.

Do you honestly think that this is what you have done?

[kayjay]

Its just laughable how people that doesn't want to face facts act like pound for pound list and actual rating doesn't matter anymore. I guess its all they have to work with.

What is "actual rating?" What does "pound for pound" even mean?

It's like saying the "greatest athlete?" Is Kobe a better athlete than Michael Phelps? The question doesn't make sense. But ESPN will put out a list of "greatest athletes," and their illiterate audience (yes, you need to be a moron to watch that channel) will refer to it as a fact as well.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Do you honestly think that this is what you have done?

I said that Calzaghe was a good fighter and that Kessler was a good win, he says that Hopkins is scared to get hit and only fought blown up welterweights. Oh and wouldn't be bothered with your other post and i mean no offense at all, but i won't bother responding to a post that will only be ignored anyway. Time is too precious to waste.

[Clegg]

How can you regard a P4P list as factual when on more than one occassion in the past decade someone who was rated P4P#1 suffered a defeat?

[Clegg]

I said that Calzaghe was a good fighter and that Kessler was a good win, he says that Hopkins is scared to get hit and only fought blown up welterweights. Oh and wouldn't be bothered with your other post and i mean no offense at all, but i won't bother responding to a post that will only be ignored anyway. Time is too precious to waste.

I think that my previous posts have shown more willingness to concede to a valid point and take into account the views of others than yours have, but so be it.