Could Trinidad take Margarito's pressure for 12 rounds?

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  • Ryn0
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    #81
    Originally posted by Puas
    Difference is, Campas' chin is about half of what Margarito's is.

    When a fight relies on his punch as much as Tito did, and he can't dent another fighter, it disheartens him. Watch Cintron in both fights vs Tony. Watch fighters crumble against Julio Cesar Chavez, in particular, Edwin Rosario, one of the hardest punchers in lightweight history. After he realized that he couldn't hurt Chavez he didn't know what to do and Chavez ran him down.

    I think Tony's beard would hold up to Tito's punch. Remember, when Tito moved up he couldn't KO David Reid and it took him 12 rounds to finally stop Vargas. Both fighters were young bucks and delicate in the chin department. If Fernando can stand up to Tito for 12 rounds then Tony backs Tito up all night long.
    Tony WAS hurt by Santos, Trinidad is bigger and hit's ALOT harder than Santos. Tito would become the first to CRACK that chin.

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    • machotime
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      #82
      Originally posted by ALPHA O`MEGA
      i think we need to watch this.

      yory boy campas was 56-0 with 53 ko's.
      Yory boy was never the same after that.... he became refried beans

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      • machotime
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        #83
        Originally posted by Puas
        Difference is, Campas' chin is about half of what Margarito's is.

        When a fight relies on his punch as much as Tito did, and he can't dent another fighter, it disheartens him. Watch Cintron in both fights vs Tony. Watch fighters crumble against Julio Cesar Chavez, in particular, Edwin Rosario, one of the hardest punchers in lightweight history. After he realized that he couldn't hurt Chavez he didn't know what to do and Chavez ran him down.

        I think Tony's beard would hold up to Tito's punch. Remember, when Tito moved up he couldn't KO David Reid and it took him 12 rounds to finally stop Vargas. Both fighters were young bucks and delicate in the chin department. If Fernando can stand up to Tito for 12 rounds then Tony backs Tito up all night long.
        Rosario had stamina issues....as well as drug problems.

        Tito had incredible stamina and would not be burned out. The way you speak, it seems as though you have no idea who Tito was.

        Another thing.. its laughable that you speak of JCC in the same sentence as Marg.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Ryn0
          Tony WAS hurt by Santos, Trinidad is bigger and hit's ALOT harder than Santos. Tito would become the first to CRACK that chin.
          Santos has sneaky one punch power and he's larger than Tito. He's six feet tall and outweight Tony by 10 pounds in that fight. He's also a southpaw. **** I think Santos would give Tito a run for his money. He's very underrated.

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            #85
            Originally posted by machotime
            Rosario had stamina issues....as well as drug problems.

            Tito had incredible stamina and would not be burned out. The way you speak, it seems as though you have no idea who Tito was.

            Another thing.. its laughable that you speak of JCC in the same sentence as Marg.
            The only issues Rosario had in that fight were Julio Cesar Chavez fists.

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            • Zocalo
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              #86
              I think he could withstand it and would get a UD victory. Tito wasn't afraid of throwing low blows if he was ever hurt. If he would ever get seriously hurt I have no doubt that he would do whatever he could to get out of the round alive.

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                #87
                Originally posted by The_Bringer
                I've seen every Tito fight in his career, save for the amateurs. Margarito is one dimensional as well, I never said he was adapted for fighting depth and technique. Tito and Tony are flipsides of the same one dimensional coin. Tito relied solely on power to finish the job, and Margarito relies solely on pressure.
                whether or not you like trinidad, what he did required skill.no he didn't spend times in the gym trying to be ali, maybe he spent it trying to be joe louis, few had a better technique than trinidad as a puncher.he went in there to give people a show.
                Last edited by AntonTheMeh; 08-23-2008, 04:11 PM.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by ALPHA O`MEGA
                  whether or not you like trinidad, what he did required skill.no he didn't spend times in the gym trying to be ali, maybe he spent it trying to be joe louis, few had a better technique than trinidad as a puncher.he went in there to give people a show.
                  I'm not sure if it required skill or not. Some people are just born and hit hard. Ernie Shavers is a prime example of this, arguably the hardest puncher of all time, yet had no real skillset of his own and failed everytime he fought the best (Ali, Quarry, Holmes).

                  I'm not sure I would call punching power a boxing technique, and if it is to be classified as one, I certainly don't think it can be classed in the same category as footwork, head movement, feinting, etc....

                  I will say Trinidad was skilled at making his best dimension produce results for him in the ring. Especially in his era when 147lbs was even better than it is today.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by The_Bringer
                    I'm not sure if it required skill or not. Some people are just born and hit hard. Ernie Shavers is a prime example of this, arguably the hardest puncher of all time, yet had no real skillset of his own and failed everytime he fought the best (Ali, Quarry, Holmes).

                    I'm not sure I would call punching power a boxing technique, and if it is to be classified as one, I certainly don't think it can be classed in the same category as footwork, head movement, feinting, etc....

                    I will say Trinidad was skilled at making his best dimension produce results for him in the ring. Especially in his era when 147lbs was even better than it is today.
                    I'm not talking about power; how he threw punches,the accuracy.
                    he didn't just have a left hook contrary to popular belief.
                    Last edited by AntonTheMeh; 08-23-2008, 04:25 PM.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by ALPHA O`MEGA
                      I'm talking about power; how he threw punches,the accuracy.
                      he didn't just have a left hook contrary to popular belief.
                      Tito placed his punches very well, no question about that. He always made the most of an opening.

                      I'm just not sure punching power is a technique or skill in and of itself.

                      The accuracy of landing them the way Tito did, however, is a skill/technique.

                      Still, accuracy and power aside you have to admit Tito was probably the least skilled fighter of his era. He was just ridiculously good at picking his spots and making the most of any given opportunities.

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