In his Prime did Roy Jones avoid Big Puches?

[Bad_Barracuda]

Calm down you hysterical tart. Go find a tampon.

Where did I say they couldnt punch? I said they werent big power punchers like the 3 I mentioned. You clearly dont understand the difference.

John Ruiz isnt much of a puncher at heavyweighteither and is extremely less talented than any of those guys. Roy picked the weakest champ to get a belt. Thats not trying to diminish what he did, its just the case. No way he'd last more than a few rounds with Lewis.

Who said a thing about anyone Welsh? Seriously.......wipe the blood out your ****

Sure he picked the weakest champ at heavy..but..RUIZ IS STILL A HEAVYWEIGHT and has KO'd his fair share of heavies..

It's not like he's Buster Mathis Jr.

Now..

Shut that ballwasher you call a mouth and learn what the hell you're talking about before you post.

[joseph5620]

Looking at Jones biggest wins, its hard to disagree. Even though I think he'd probably beat Nigel Benn with his superior skill, speed and technique, I think Benn wouldve made him **** his pants. Benn didnt give a ****, it was knockout or get knocked out and he managed to get to someone as accomplished as McClellan so cracking one on Jones chin wouldnt have been out of the question.

Benn also got away with consistent hitting in the back of the head( rabbit punching) against McClellan which may have caused the brain injury. McClellan told the ref and the ref didn't do a thing about it. The referee also con****uously halted the action to warn McClellan in the first round when Benn was on his way out. Those are facts and that referee should be banned for life. Benn didn't want to go anywhere near RJJ at that time and his promoter Don King called out everybody but Jones after that fight.

[joseph5620]

He really didn't avoid those guys.

Terry Norris was just bad timing, Julian Jackson didn't want any of Jones, McClellan was supposed to fight Jones after Benn but we all know what happened there, Benn was willing to fight Jones a few years before the McClellan fight but I don't think he really wanted Jones afterwards, a Tyson deal just couldn't be reached. Lennox Lewis is a crazy fight.

And Jones could take a decent shot when he was younger, he got hit flush by Griffin and went nowhere, he got hit flush by Ruiz and went nowhere so that isn't a man with a glass chin.

It's refreshing to read the truth without agendas

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Sure he picked the weakest champ at heavy..but..RUIZ IS STILL A HEAVYWEIGHT and has KO'd his fair share of heavies..

It's not like he's Buster Mathis Jr.

Now..

Shut that ballwasher you call a mouth and learn what the hell you're talking about before you post.

Who has Ruiz KOed thats anywhere Jones level? He was too slow to ever catch Jones.

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Who has Ruiz KOed thats anywhere Jones level? He was too slow to ever catch Jones.

He knocked down and hurt Evander Holyfield with 1 punch, anyone that can do that can punch pretty hard.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Benn also got away with consistent hitting in the back of the head( rabbit punching) against McClellan which may have caused the brain injury. McClellan told the ref and the ref didn't do a thing about it. The referee also con****uously halted the action to warn McClellan in the first round when Benn was on his way out. Those are facts and that referee should be banned for life. Benn didn't want to go anywhere near RJJ at that time and his promoter Don King called out everybody but Jones after that fight.

I hear these bull**** accusations all the time. There were also instances where McClellan rabbit punched and headbutted Benn but no one talks about that. Benn's style was to stay low and swing hooks at the taller McClellan, some which caught him on the back of the head. Benn battered him and won the fight, what happened to McClellan was a tragedy that unfortunately happens. Placing blame is ******ity.

Benn didnt wanna fight Jones after that........he didnt really want to fight full stop. He asked for $10m to fight Jones knowng he'd probably lose.

Benn wanted Jones much earlier but Jones wanted nothing to do with Benn who was KOing yank after yank in their own backyward.

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I hear these bull**** accusations all the time. There were also instances where McClellan rabbit punched and headbutted Benn but no one talks about that. Benn's style was to stay low and swing hooks at the taller McClellan, some which caught him on the back of the head. Benn battered him and won the fight, what happened to McClellan was a tragedy that unfortunately happens. Placing blame is ******ity.

Benn didnt wanna fight Jones after that........he didnt really want to fight full stop. He asked for $10m to fight Jones knowng he'd probably lose.

Benn wanted Jones much earlier but Jones wanted nothing to do with Benn who was KOing yank after yank in their own backyward.

Yeah, McClellan was doing his fair share of dirty stuff when they were in close, Benn did the majority of it though and the referee was genuinely horrible in the fight.

If you're talking about the stint Benn had where he fought like 5 fights in a row in the US, Jones had barely turned pro at that point, it was something like 1991 when Benn made that tour of the US and I don't think he KO'd everyone he fought when he fought in the US. 1993-94 would make more sense.

[wpink1]

Some of you Jones haters are complete idiots. How amazing someone can stay at home, and if they get hit with a simply jab to the body they would go the emergency room..yet and still these same chat room toughies will say that Jones didnt have a jaw, never fought good fightrs etc....What a joke!!!

Sure Roy could have fought some others, and yes we would have loved to see him face a prime McCllelan, Benn, Eubanks, DM. However what about Hill, Toney, Hopkins, Gonzales, Harding, Johnson, etc. If roy had fought the ones he did not fight, and missed any of these mentioned, then you all would be ranting about not fighting the others. No fighter faces every person out there, The beloved Duran on here, never faced ARguello or Pryor.

Roy obviously took good punches, as there are many many punches that one takes during the course of a long fight, that we overlook, cause the technique that one uses to minimize punches Roy was great at. The reflexes he used to hit and not get hit was phenomenal. Outside of Mayweather I have seen pretty much eveyone (not Hagler) get ht with shots by great fighters and fighter not so special, and hurt. Leonard was hurt early on by Rodriguez, then Geraldo, Duran. Ali, the man with a great jaw, was dazed several times, Cooper, for one, and he was not some great great fighter. Louis, Lewis, everyone. Roy got dazed by De Valle, and go up and went on to win the fight. Trust me there were other big shots he took, that many would have been dropped by, but Roy did have a jaw, maybe not a Tex Cobb jaw, but he did have the all around ability to deal with punches.

It was not until he slowed a bit, weight loss in a short period of time which does have negtive effects to a persons body. When he slowed and aged, and damaged his body, then he fell victim to shots, the shot vs Tarver is one that could happen anytime. His second stoppage was a beatdown, one that was due his fighting the wrong person with the wrong style at time n his career where he did not have the tools necessary to deal with the onslaught, that he once did.

That simple

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Yeah, McClellan was doing his fair share of dirty stuff when they were in close, Benn did the majority of it though and the referee was genuinely horrible in the fight.

If you're talking about the stint Benn had where he fought like 5 fights in a row in the US, Jones had barely turned pro at that point, it was something like 1991 when Benn made that tour of the US and I don't think he KO'd everyone he fought when he fought in the US. 1993-94 would make more sense.

A lot of it was unitentional by Benn though........due to his style and the way he was fighting. The ref was poor but I think he was poor for both fighters. He didnt help McClellan in the first round and kept taking to long to warn both fighters for infringements.

I was talking primarily about when he went over and knocked out Barkley and DeWitt. Benn offered to fight Jones around the time Jones chose an easier fight with Hopkins at middleweight.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Some of you Jones haters are complete idiots. How amazing someone can stay at home, and if they get hit with a simply jab to the body they would go the emergency room..yet and still these same chat room toughies will say that Jones didnt have a jaw, never fought good fightrs etc....What a joke!!!

Sure Roy could have fought some others, and yes we would have loved to see him face a prime McCllelan, Benn, Eubanks, DM. However what about Hill, Toney, Hopkins, Gonzales, Harding, Johnson, etc. If roy had fought the ones he did not fight, and missed any of these mentioned, then you all would be ranting about not fighting the others. No fighter faces every person out there, The beloved Duran on here, never faced ARguello or Pryor.

I dont agree with this. The guys who he didnt fight were a level above those he did. Barring Toney who was in that level and Hopkins who eventually reached that level.

The likes of Harding, Johnson, Hill etc are all good world level contenders but not great fighters like Benn, Eubank etc. But it was more disappointing that he was fighting the likes of Richard Frazier and David Telesco than anyone else.