In his Prime did Roy Jones avoid Big Puches?

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  • Clegg
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    #21
    Originally posted by wpink1
    It is easy for those who never boxed to say Roy had no jaw, or that he got by on skills alone. That is garbage. Maybe he didnt have the jaw pound per pound of a George Chuvalo, or Tex Cobb, but to win and defend titles at 160-168-175,,,then beat a Heavyweight..and not lose until he had to lose a drastic amount of weight ina short period of time...He had to have a jaw.

    Now true his reflexes enabled him to avoid taking a lot of shots directly at full impact. WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL, ISN'T THAT THE POINT. People reflexes, and avoiding shots, or minimizing the impacts by properly positioning yourself, and your jaw (head not straight up, jaw tucked), rolling with the punches, all these are learned, trained, developed techniques that all wish they had, only Floyd and Whitacker in recent memory have been better during their prime years. Ask Ali the benefit of having the heart to take all those shots directly.

    Look at Leoanrd, who fought the best fighters one could imagine, and never went down, hearns, duran, Benitez, Hager. He was hit buy big shots repeatedly, had a detached retinea, but it took slowing of reflexed brought on by inactivity and ******* abuse to result in knockdows. Oh yes this guy that never went down to hagler and hearns, then afte 6 additional years of inactivity after already being out 6 of 9 years,,,,was then stopped by light highting Camacho. All because inactivity led to slowing of reflexes along with age, and this resulted in him not taking shots in the right manner as he did before, so that big shots did not impact him as much, as it did when a light hiitting fighter landed shots.
    Really? I didn't know that Leonard did *******.

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    • ALT-Assassin
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      #22
      Originally posted by abadger
      What are you talking about? Any bum can win titles at MW, SMW, LHW and HW. It's easy! I did it last week!
      It is not as easy as defending your WBO trinket against useless mandatory after useless mandatory until you racked up enough defenses to make your career look legit to the sheep fans.

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      • abadger
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        #23
        Originally posted by Clegg
        He ducked cruiserweight, which is historically the most talented division of all time.

        Was he scared of Johnny Nelson and Carl Thompson? I think we know the answer to that one.
        Roy is pathetic, truly pathetic.

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          #24
          Originally posted by deemo
          sorry i just dont see nigel benn being very competitive with a prime jones.
          but then again i dont see many who could. i never was a big fan of his and liked him about as much as i like mayweather now but since his loses i have been kinda wanting him to pull off at least one more big fight. the problem is i like joe calzage too lol.
          We don't what would have happened because these fights never took place. Benn would have to be one of the top 5 middlweight punchers ever and if he landed, it would have been interesting. At super middlweight, i can't anyone in history beating a prime Jones but there are a few at middlweight and light heavyweight.

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          • Dan...
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            #25
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            Even though you do joke about it, I dont think Roys resume is what it couldve been. The fact that hes probably the most talented fighter ive seen in my lifetime makes it all the more disappointing.
            I agree to an extent. Roy's resume could have been better without a doubt. Still, I find it a little ridiculous when people go on like he has never beaten anybody. He has some pretty solid names on his resume that people don't even seem to want to recognise.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Clegg
              He ducked cruiserweight, which is historically the most talented division of all time.

              Was he scared of Johnny Nelson and Carl Thompson? I think we know the answer to that one.
              I am regularly amused by the content of your posts. You are a funny individual.

              P.S. Be careful of the Eastern Euro mafia, I got placed on ignore after stating that I had reservations in relation to the strength and depth of the CW division that they so dearly love.

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                #27
                Originally posted by danc1984
                I agree to an extent. Roy's resume could have been better without a doubt. Still, I find it a little ridiculous when people go on like he has never beaten anybody. He has some pretty solid names on his resume that people don't even seem to want to recognise.
                His win over a prime Eric Harding was underrated. Even though Harding was never champion, he was the first to ever beat Tarver and was one of the most skilled southpaws i have seen. He was also beating Tarver in the rematch until he was caught with a ******. He just came in at the wrong time becuase light heavyweight was too good at the time. I just don't he had that consistantcy to be dominate or stay at the top.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by danc1984
                  I agree to an extent. Roy's resume could have been better without a doubt. Still, I find it a little ridiculous when people go on like he has never beaten anybody. He has some pretty solid names on his resume that people don't even seem to want to recognise.
                  This is a story I am familiar with.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                    His win over a prime Eric Harding was underrated. Even though Harding was never champion, he was the first to ever beat Tarver and was one of the most skilled southpaws i have seen. He was also beating Tarver in the rematch until he was caught with a ******. He just came in at the wrong time becuase light heavyweight was too good at the time. I just don't he had that consistantcy to be dominate or stay at the top.
                    Yeah the Eric Harding win was a good one. There are several others also like Virgil Hill, Grant, Reggie Johnson, Woods and a few others he fought in his LHW reign that aren't too bad either. I'm not saying they are all elite fighters but the way a select few go on they would have you believe Roy was just beating up guys with losing records in these fights. The man beat some good opponents.

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                    • Bad_Barracuda
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by mangler
                      You can't learn to take a punch. Roy's jaw was always vulnerable to big power shots, but it didn't matter in his prime cuz he was too ****in fast for anybody to actually hit him flush.
                      This is sheer ******ity.

                      Prime James Tony could crack like a mofo..

                      Even B-Hop in his prime HOLDS THE MIDDLEWEIGHT RECORD FOR FASTEST KO.

                      Jorge Castro is another mofo that can bring the power.

                      So could Virgil Hill..

                      Jones took flush punches at heavyweight and wasn't fazed..

                      You should stick to sucking Calzhage's **** and stay off topics that don't involve YOUR WELSH CHEW-TOY..LOL

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