21 year old Joe Calzaghe I suggest haters watch this!

[them_apples]

Originally Posted by GreatJoe View Post
Calzaghe's wins before title.

12-0-0
21-0-0
44-2-0

Hopkin's wins before title.

30-3-2
8-0-0

All Hopkins other victims have ****e records

lmao at british that only care about 0's

It must mean they are good!

It doesn't matter by the way, Hopkins was 43 and lost only due to stamina, he'd beat Calzaghe in his prime enough said.

[T-97]

lmao at british that only care about 0's

It must mean they are good!

Yup. His "valid facts", were copying a few records with 0s on the end and then putting ""

LMAO..

[sparked_85]

To be fair Calzaghe doesn't even mention all those bums he fought in his book.

Apart from Delaney which was mean't to be an even fight. lol.

[them_apples]

you know what else is funny, Trinidad weighed more than Hopkins when they fought

and, Trinidad was 40 - 0 5'11...I don't see the huge size difference..I wasn't as bad as Cotto Margerito and nobody gets pissed about that for some reason

I'm inclined to say Trinidad, who was Calzaghes size, would have beat his ass

[Flawless.]

you know what else is funny, Trinidad weighed more than Hopkins when they fought

and, Trinidad was 40 - 0 5'11...I don't see the huge size difference..I wasn't as bad as Cotto Margerito and nobody gets pissed about that for some reason

Same crazy as Calzaghe fans will argue Hopkins won that fight due to size. It quite ****ing crazy , there was no size advantage in that fight.

[T-97]

Just cause i'm bored GreatJoe. Lets look at the resumes overall:

Hopkins-
Percy Harris 162 8-0-0
Wayne Powell 159 30-3-2
Roy Jones Jr 159½ 21-0-0
Roy Ritchie 159 14-0-3
Wendall Hall 155¼ 15-1-0
Lupe Aquino 160 46-6-2
Segundo Mercado 158 18-2-0
Joe Lipsey 158 25-0-0
John David Jackson 156 35-2-0
Glen Johnson 159¾ 32-0-0
Robert Allen 160 22-2-0
Syd Vanderpool 160 28-1-0
Keith Holmes 157½ 36-2-0
Felix Trinidad 158½ 40-0-0
William Joppy 159 34-2-1
Oscar De La Hoya 155 37-3-0
Howard Eastman 159½ 40-1-0
Jermain Taylor 160 23-0-0
Antonio Tarver 174 24-3-0
Ronald Wright 170 51-3-1
Joe Calzaghe 173 44-0-0

Calzaghe-
Mark Delaney 167 21-0-0
Tyler Hughes 167¾ 12-0-0
Luciano Torres 169 44-2-0
Chris Eubank 167¾ 45-2-2
Branko Sobot 166½ 14-1-0
Robin Reid 167¾ 26-1-1
Rick Thornberry 167 23-2-0
Omar Sheika 167 20-1-0
Mario Veit 167 30-0-0
Miguel Angel Jimenez 168 21-1-0
Mger Mkrtchian 167½ 18-1-0
Evans Ashira 166 24-1-0
Jeff Lacy 167 21-0-0
Sakio Bika 168 20-1-2
Mikkel Kessler 168 39-0-0
Bernard Hopkins 173 48-4-1

[pesticid]

Didn't Zaghe knock out Chris Byrd in the amateurs?

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Yeah, You owned me so bad Mr Boxrec. Oh god...

Oh god...

Oh god...

Please don't go back to boxrec..

Please, I mean..

You copised and pasted a few record and put that means your so cool...

lmao at british that only care about 0's

It must mean they are good!

Yup. His "valid facts", were copying a few records with 0s on the end and then putting ""

LMAO..

We are talking about their opponents BEFORE their title fights.

Therefore ALL we have is boxrec and records to go by as most of the guys are bums and NOBODY knows anything about them.

So tell me, what do you know about all Hopkins' opponents before his title fight????? without using boxrec, hmmm hmmm TELL ME?????

and to them_apples, Generally a guy 12-0-0 is better than a guy 12-13-0, and thats all we can go by, so go back to your corner.

Just cause i'm bored GreatJoe. Lets look at the resumes overall:

Hopkins-
Percy Harris 162 8-0-0
Wayne Powell 159 30-3-2
Roy Jones Jr 159½ 21-0-0
Roy Ritchie 159 14-0-3
Wendall Hall 155¼ 15-1-0
Lupe Aquino 160 46-6-2
Segundo Mercado 158 18-2-0
Joe Lipsey 158 25-0-0
John David Jackson 156 35-2-0
Glen Johnson 159¾ 32-0-0
Robert Allen 160 22-2-0
Syd Vanderpool 160 28-1-0
Keith Holmes 157½ 36-2-0
Felix Trinidad 158½ 40-0-0
William Joppy 159 34-2-1
Oscar De La Hoya 155 37-3-0
Howard Eastman 159½ 40-1-0
Jermain Taylor 160 23-0-0
Antonio Tarver 174 24-3-0
Ronald Wright 170 51-3-1
Joe Calzaghe 173 44-0-0

Calzaghe-
Mark Delaney 167 21-0-0
Tyler Hughes 167¾ 12-0-0
Luciano Torres 169 44-2-0
Chris Eubank 167¾ 45-2-2
Branko Sobot 166½ 14-1-0
Robin Reid 167¾ 26-1-1
Rick Thornberry 167 23-2-0
Omar Sheika 167 20-1-0
Mario Veit 167 30-0-0
Miguel Angel Jimenez 168 21-1-0
Mger Mkrtchian 167½ 18-1-0
Evans Ashira 166 24-1-0
Jeff Lacy 167 21-0-0
Sakio Bika 168 20-1-2
Mikkel Kessler 168 39-0-0
Bernard Hopkins 173 48-4-1

This is a different argument, WHAT can't you defend the other one????

[T-97]

This is a different argument, WHAT can't you defend the other one????

You went to boxrec. Copied a couple of records and put "", So. No, I ain't going to bother. Joe admitted himself that his oppenents were ****, Hopkins were ****e too. But somehow you interpreted "Hopkins by a little bit" as "Hopkins by a mile", and like a typical nuthugger you took that as if i had slapped your mother.

You were the one that wanted to discuss records. I broadened the bracket, that's all.

I actually am a fan of both.

EDIT- I ain't responding again cause i can't be bothered.

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You went to boxrec. Copied a couple of records and put "", So. No, I ain't going to bother.

How else am I supposed to do it, EXPLAIN.

Joe admitted himself that his oppenents were ****, Hopkins were ****e too. But somehow you interpreted "Hopkins by a little bit" as "Hopkins by a mile", and like a typical nuthugger you took that as if i had slapped your mother.

But it's not a little bit, Calzaghe's are clearly better, thats what I was arguing about.

You were the one that wanted to discuss records. I broadened the bracket, that's all.

Without first finishing the first argument, you went off the point because you were wrong.

I actually am a fan of both.

So am I.

EDIT- I ain't responding again cause i can't be bothered.

So you got right?

I'd like to see you answer all of these points, or will you run?