Roy Jones wasn't in his prime excuse debunked

[bp4pbjr]

I'm a certified moron

thats the most sense you've made yet

[bp4pbjr]

Roy Jones wasn't in his prime the same as Antonio Tarver wasn't in his bottom line so that excuse holds no weight what so ever.

how does someone in their 23rd fight qualify as being past their prime
tarver must be worst then i thought

[joseph5620]

[danc1984;3896463]Starting to think that Pelon is the worst poster on this entire board which is quite an achievement.

You won't get any arguments from me. You can't compare fighters by age alone when they have had different careers. It's like comparing two cars of the same year with different mileage. If one of the cars has 100,000 miles and the other has 25,000, they are not going to be in the same condition. That probably will go over Pelon's head. He doesn't like many fighters other than Margarito anyway. Ask him why Eric Morales was getting his ass handed to him before he turned 30. I guarantee you that he'll have a different outlook than he does on Roy Jones at 35-36.

[Da Hammer]

why are people making excuses for RJJ??? he lost those fights no excuses, it doesnt take away at all from the greatness that was Roy Jones Jr...

[joseph5620]

It's like Nate Campbell now, he is an older guy but why was he able to beat Juan Diaz? And not only beat Juan Diaz but beat him at his own game? Because his body is still fresh, he turned pro late in his life, like Tarver, so that he doesn't have as much wear and tear on his body.

Those 12 round fights, even if you don't lose a round, take a lot out of a fighter as his career goes on, especially in the legs. Not to mention the weight problems.

We're seeing signs of Tarver slipping now, in fact he was slipping a few fights ago.

But Tarver was closer to his prime than Jones was at that time, also different people peak at different points in their lives, not all people necessarily peak at 28 or 29, Tarver could have just been a late bloomer.

Good post. I'll also add that years of sparring take a toll on the body.

[Vasyl’s dad]

You know i could make a long drawn out argument, but i will just say this, in his prime, jones wouldnt have been hit by that left hand, he would have seen it and moved out of the way, the fact that he didint tells me he lost something and wasnt in his prime. Tarver would have likely always given jones a tough fight, but tarver as many have said before, started late, he was one of the oldest guys on the olympic team in 96 and if i remember, his loss to Jirov was so devastating he had a long layoff because of it. I think Tarver was definately coming into his own by the time he got to jones in 03 and gave him that close fight. There was no way i am going to say that Tarver wasnt in his prime, considering he was still an amatuer in 96, while jones participated in the 88 olympics and turned pro shortly afterwards, nobody can tell me Roys Body at that point wasnt aged and at least had slowed down a bit. Tarver had the fresher body as well as the vendetta against jones for so long from living in his shadow.

Tarver was in his prime, jones wasnt. The fact that he didint move from that left hand tells me that.

So you're saying that Tarver in his mid to late 30 was just as fast and had the same reflexes as he did in his 20s?

This isn't about having a "fresher" body. Its about the natural decline of ones physical abilities. Are you going to be as fast at 34 as you were at 26-29?

Why does everyone ignore basic fundamentals?

Why ignore that if Roy started earlier, his experience didn't carry him in those fights?

You're ******ed if you think the human body gets faster and develops better reflexes in its 30s than it what it had in its 20s.

Thats just ******, like all of these excuses that no matter what, Roy Jones should have a perfect record.

Guess what kids,

its why they fight in the ring and not on paper.

and not a single one of you was calling Roy past it before the first fight.



I just love these excuses though.

Roy woulda and shoulda did this and that.

Sounds like some other clown we're used to in the world of woulda and shoulda.

[Vasyl’s dad]

[danc1984;3896463]Starting to think that Pelon is the worst poster on this entire board which is quite an achievement.

You won't get any arguments from me. You can't compare fighters by age alone when they have had different careers. It's like comparing two cars of the same year with different mileage. If one of the cars has 100,000 miles and the other has 25,000, they are not going to be in the same condition. That probably will go over Pelon's head. He doesn't like many fighters other than Margarito anyway. Ask him why Eric Morales was getting his ass handed to him before he turned 30. I guarantee you that he'll have a different outlook than he does on Roy Jones at 35-36.

Erik Morales was an entirely different type of fighter who enjoyed being in the trenches of war.

Roy Jones according to you stans, never lost rounds, much less minutes of fights. How is that taxing on his body if hes not taking any punishment?

I'm not comparing solely on age alone, I'm saying its a factor in the equation.

Tarver being a crackhead is also a factor in wear and tear on ones body.

Tarver would have given Roy trouble at any time period.

[Vasyl’s dad]

why are people making excuses for RJJ??? .

They really believed he was Superman.

Tarver crushed all their dreams with one shot.

[Vasyl’s dad]

how does someone in their 23rd fight qualify as being past their prime
tarver must be worst then i thought

and the magic number for being past prime is?

Lets be real definitive and draw that line in the sand so that way we know for a fact when a fighter is past it.

[joseph5620]

Erik Morales was an entirely different type of fighter who enjoyed being in the trenches of war.

Roy Jones according to you stans, never lost rounds, much less minutes of fights. How is that taxing on his body if hes not taking any punishment?

I'm not comparing solely on age alone, I'm saying its a factor in the equation.

Tarver being a crackhead is also a factor in wear and tear on ones body.

Tarver would have given Roy trouble at any time period.

Tarver was never "crack head". He experimented with drugs for a brief period of time. You're truthful about 10 percent of the time. And that's being generous. Nobody is a bigger "stan" than you when it comes to Margarito.