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  • OTSS
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    #71
    Originally posted by Konstantin
    Maybe you missed the post where I said prominent members of BS were doing it.
    Maybe I did, they sir are ******ed. I was misinformed and I apologize.

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    • JAB5239
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      #72
      Originally posted by Konstantin
      You missed his point. He was talking about Toney when he said that, not ICANTLIE
      My man, what I said still stands. It doesn't matter who he was talking about, there was an implied agenda.

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      • Konstantin
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        #73
        Originally posted by ICANTLIE
        Maybe I did, they sir are ******ed. I was misinformed and I apologize.
        dont worry bout it, it was a long post...

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          #74
          Originally posted by Konstantin
          dont worry bout it, it was a long post...
          yeah, I think I got lost.

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          • Dynamite Kid
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            #75
            Originally posted by -Antonio-
            Ike Quartey clearly beat Oscar De La Hoya, but people only like to look at the 12th round,
            Co-sign it always makes me laugh when i hear people say he pulled the fight out LOL

            Jones pulled the fight out in the first Tarver fight in the last 3 rounds , Oscar lost clearly

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            • Dynamite Kid
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              #76
              Originally posted by tripmywire
              I like all of those, except that I think Castillo was Mayweather's best opponent.
              i can stand for that aswell ,Castillo pushed him further than Oscar did aswell i guess

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              • Konstantin
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                #77
                Originally posted by Terrible...
                i can stand for that aswell ,Castillo pushed him further than Oscar did aswell i guess
                Yeah Oscar is the best opponent Floyd has been in with but Castillo was his toughest test. Castillo was young and hungry while Oscar was older and semi retired.

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                • Clegg
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                  #78
                  Hatton will lose to Malignaggi

                  Not really that controversial an opinion I suppose, but it'd be an upset.

                  Either Vasquez or R. Marquez will lose within the next year.

                  Those fights took too much out of them. I think it'll be similar to when Morales lost to Raheem; a great fighter who has taken too much punishment in the past unable to raise his game against someone that he would've dominated in his prime.

                  Kell Brook will win a world title before Amir Khan

                  Most people haven't seen this guy, so you'll just have to remember the name I guess and call me on it if he ends up doing particularly good or bad. He's really impressed me so far, albeit against limited opposition. I think that he can continue to perform well at the highest level, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

                  140 is actually a pretty decent division

                  Some people make out that 140 is the worst in boxing, but in my opinion Hatton, Malignaggi, Bradley, Witter, Kotelnik, Torres, Holt and Urango are better than everyone at 160 other than Pavlik, and better than most of the guys at 154 and cruiserweight.

                  Casamayor is slightly overrated

                  I think that some people look at skillful, defensive southpaws like Casamayor and see them as a technical genius. He was not as good as Hopkins, Toney or Mayweather but sometimes it looked like he was, when against lesser opposition, similar to when a KO artist looks good against journeymen but cannot do it at the highest level. I am not saying that he was a B-level fighter or anything like that, he was very very good, but not quite as good as people make out, and I don't think that he was robbed against Freitas either(though the KD was a slip IMO).

                  That fight is an example of what I am talking about. If what people seem to think about Casamayor was true, this fight would've been like Tito vs Hopkins, with a power puncher being dominated by a defensive master. Infact it would've been worse because Freitas wasn't as good as Tito. Instead Casamayor couldn't deal with Freitas, even though Popo had a very predictable style and didn't do much other than follow Casamayor around, throwing nothing but telegraphed power punches. Casamayor only started to win rounds once Freitas (who had never been the distance before) started to tire. If Freitas had better stamina that would've been a very one-sided fight.

                  A world-class technical genius does not get dominated for half the fight by a good-but-not-great one-dimensional slugger.

                  Oliver McCall has a better chin than anyone who has ever lived

                  Yep, he does.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Clegg
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                    Casamayor is slightly overrated

                    I think that some people look at skillful, defensive southpaws like Casamayor and see them as a technical genius. He was not as good as Hopkins, Toney or Mayweather but sometimes it looked like he was, when against lesser opposition, similar to when a KO artist looks good against journeymen but cannot do it at the highest level. I am not saying that he was a B-level fighter or anything like that, he was very very good, but not quite as good as people make out, and I don't think that he was robbed against Freitas either(though the KD was a slip IMO).

                    That fight is an example of what I am talking about. If what people seem to think about Casamayor was true, this fight would've been like Tito vs Hopkins, with a power puncher being dominated by a defensive master. Infact it would've been worse because Freitas wasn't as good as Tito. Instead Casamayor couldn't deal with Freitas, even though Popo had a very predictable style and didn't do much other than follow Casamayor around, throwing nothing but telegraphed power punches. Casamayor only started to win rounds once Freitas (who had never been the distance before) started to tire. If Freitas had better stamina that would've been a very one-sided fight.

                    A world-class technical genius does not get dominated for half the fight by a good-but-not-great one-dimensional slugger.
                    I agree...






























                    He's still the shiiiiitt

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                    • DiegoFuego
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                      #80
                      I think less of quitters; for example...

                      Kostya Tszyu totally quit against Ricky Hatton and had no reason for doing so. The fight was definitely winnable, but he acted like he was down 4 points heading into round 12. I don't think it's acceptable to quit that late in a fight when you're not even being clearly beaten. I catch a lot of flack for calling Tszyu a quitter over that, but he quit. That's what quitters do. They quit.

                      To respond to the initial post

                      1. I don't like or respect Margarito because he's all chin and no skill or talent. But I do think he's exciting and don't miss his fights.

                      2. The first time I watched the fight I thought Abraham won about 8 rounds but on the rewatch I think I gave Miranda more rounds. It might just be one of those fights that I go back and forth on the rest of my life.

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